Imagine that, another NKY school has an incident of bullying, someone(s) catch it on video, and the school has a problem with the video getting out so they are going to discipline the student that released the truth (video).

 

I guess this is better than demanding the students delete the video off their phones thus tampering with physical evidence.

 

This is just another example of a public school trying to cover up their own shortcomings.

 

Remember everyone, schools are government entities, they are inherently secret, and they don't want to share anything with the public, especially anything that shows their ineptitude.

 

1000000% agree. The system is completely broken and has it's focus on damage control rather than correcting the root cause of the issues.....once again, if the only place you have ever worked or resided in this country is in a school, then you have limited ability to apply real world solutions to the situations presented.

I must have missed that. If so, then the original post title is somewhat misleading.

 

On a slightly different note, how can the girl in the black pants avoid assault charges? Would seem to be a slam dunk case looking at the video. Good lord, how many times does she kick the other girl, who is not only lying on the floor, but has someone else holding her down!

 

It's hard for me to tell how long teachers were there while the fight was going on before they got involved, but I will say that whoever had the responsibility for getting this girl away from the one on the floor seemed to be doing it half-hearted.

 

I'm not sure but that looks like a teacher who is helping the girl on the ground while trying to block the girl kicking her.

Here is a fluff story from Channel 5 that adds almost nothing to the knowledge base:

 

Scott HS faces more questions after school fight video emerges | Local News - WLWT Home

 

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Hey Channel 5, how about actually asking some questions about what the training says to do when there is an active fight.

 

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"All I can say is we're investigating this very thoroughly,” spokesperson Jess Dykes said. “We take these incidents very seriously. It happened on Monday and we're still investigating."

 

The investigation, Dykes said, will include witnesses and teachers who were nearby. That information, however, is confidential.

 

Parents have confirmed the two girls in the video have been suspended and could be expelled depending on a future hearing. Another student who posted the video on social media has also been suspended.

From the looks of things IMO the teachers probably did what they were trained to do. Whether we agree with that training or not is another issue.

Was reading about this on fb last night and tons of post from Scott parents about how awful the school has become. Gun threats have been made fights described as gang fights. Remember just like 2 years ago test scores were in 40s and kids who wanted to learn walked out to take up issues with school board about lack of discipline. Scott is a complete mess!

 

Facebook is where i get all my facts! Geez, Joe, how much room you guys have down there in Independence?

From the looks of things IMO the teachers probably did what they were trained to do. Whether we agree with that training or not is another issue.

 

Thank you, voice of reason!

If it can be proven teachers watched while a child was being beaten my lawyer would be calling Scott .

 

And you are the problem! What if a male teacher grabs one of the female participants allegedly inappropriately to break up the fight? If/when the teachers do get involved, the parents can also then call their lawyers. The litigious society we live in creates a culture where we have to think, think some more, and then overthink all the consequences of our actions and in many cases, not getting involved is safer for your career than getting involved. These teachers/administrators/aides/SRO's are in very tough situations.

Imagine that, another NKY school has an incident of bullying, someone(s) catch it on video, and the school has a problem with the video getting out so they are going to discipline the student that released the truth (video).

 

I guess this is better than demanding the students delete the video off their phones thus tampering with physical evidence.

 

This is just another example of a public school trying to cover up their own shortcomings.

 

Remember everyone, schools are government entities, they are inherently secret, and they don't want to share anything with the public, especially anything that shows their ineptitude.

 

ok, and that makes them different from businesses, families, individuals, how? Sharing things with the public gives you an automatic ticket to BGP forums, and maybe even worse.

Two Things:

1. Are these fights sometimes "staged" for the purpose of posting on facebook and getting attention?

 

2. Are teachers trained to break up fights? Let's say it's some 200lb football players fighting and the nearest teacher is a 150 lb female?

 

My brother-in-law is a high school counselor and stepped in to break up a fight. Ended up in the hospital needing back surgery.

ok, and that makes them different from businesses, families, individuals, how? Sharing things with the public gives you an automatic ticket to BGP forums, and maybe even worse.

 

First and foremost schools are funded by our tax dollars.

First and foremost schools are funded by our tax dollars.

 

Agreed. But the overall message of negativity-"just another example of a public school trying to overcome their own shortcomings", etc.- begs the institution to try the best they can to control the message (not necessarily to squash it). Everyone has their preconceived notions of what happened, who did what right, who did what wrong.... You know what you have seen in a short video and heard from the ratings controlled media. Have you determined that you have enough information to appreciate THE truth of this situation?

Agreed. But the overall message of negativity-"just another example of a public school trying to overcome their own shortcomings", etc.- begs the institution to try the best they can to control the message (not necessarily to squash it). Everyone has their preconceived notions of what happened, who did what right, who did what wrong.... You know what you have seen in a short video and heard from the ratings controlled media. Have you determined that you have enough information to appreciate THE truth of this situation?

 

How are we ever going to get to the truth when the school system says the process is confidential, they refuse to give any real updates on the situation, and they punish and suspend the one person that released information (the video) of the incident?

 

We need transparency. This is the overriding problem with government, it is secret.

 

And we all know the school has no intention of releasing anything meaningful. Remember what spokesperson Jess Dykes said: "All I can say is we're investigating this very thoroughly.” “We take these incidents very seriously. It happened on Monday and we're still investigating."

 

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I am embarrassed for you Jess Dykes. A competent group of investigators could solve many major crimes in 4 days. You had a quick fight between two kids and four days isn't enough!? How tough can it be? Seriously, what kind of Bozos are doing the investigation if it takes more than 4 days to get to the bottom of a short fight between two kids?

 

Dykes comments look like little more than a stall tactic by the powers that be knowing that this will all blow over soon.

I heard some teachers have been suspended.

And you are the problem! What if a male teacher grabs one of the female participants allegedly inappropriately to break up the fight? If/when the teachers do get involved, the parents can also then call their lawyers. The litigious society we live in creates a culture where we have to think, think some more, and then overthink all the consequences of our actions and in many cases, not getting involved is safer for your career than getting involved. These teachers/administrators/aides/SRO's are in very tough situations.

 

You can make all excuses you want but eventually common sense has to take place. If I saw two kids fighting and one kid getting kicked on the ground I'm pulling the students apart.

 

I understand it's their training but the only way to fix the mess at public schools it seems is to get courts involved. I would think anyone with common sense would break a fight up between kids and not watch.

You can make all excuses you want but eventually common sense has to take place. If I saw two kids fighting and one kid getting kicked on the ground I'm pulling the students apart.

 

I understand it's their training but the only way to fix the mess at public schools it seems is to get courts involved. I would think anyone with common sense would break a fight up between kids and not watch.

 

If our school system is "broken" it is the direct results of poor parenting. The school is left to fix everything that is broken in the students' lives, and it is overwhelming. So now teachers are judged on their ability to quash a violent outburst between two very strong violent kids. I am sure that is not what they envisioned when they went to college to study education.

 

Teachers are human too. There are a multitude of reasons why they may have initially hesitated to jump in. Laying hands on a student has a lot of legal consequesces. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't. They also face the possibility of getting hurt themselves.

 

The only person who should be held responsible for any physical harm done is the person who assaulted them.