Completely within the rules....

 

If it was, the refs wouldn't have been suspended...

 

The clock was at 0.0. How were the players supposed to know .4 would be put back on? I guess there should never be any celebration in case time is put back on.

If it was, the refs wouldn't have been suspended...

 

The clock was at 0.0. How were the players supposed to know .4 would be put back on? I guess there should never be any celebration in case time is put back on.

 

See above, look up "misapplication", then tell me it's the same as getting one wrong...

 

Again, we have no idea what had transpired prior to the end of this game, so there is a huge gap in the information to formulate a relevant response. Everyone putting it on the backs of the officials is doing so from a "fan" perspective only...

@TAC got the answer correct, to some extent, you can blame the official timer...to the balance, we will never know what the real time game management issues were.

 

Losing games on the officials part is irrelevant to the facts of situation at game time

Just to add some clarity to this: the officials didn't penalize the team running onto the court, they penalized the fans for interference. Since the NCAA has placed court storming as a point of emphasis for the safety of all involved, I can certainly see why the officials applied the technical foul. Given that the fans entered the court during live ball play, this is the correct rule interpretation, just misapplied and the crew is penalized for it.

 

Shoe meet other foot: Fans storm the court, visiting team member gets trucked at division line and injuried, officials do nothing....

 

Do we suspend the AD for not maintaining control of fans ? That is a pure game management issue and a serious concern for any visiting team or officials in that situation....

There weren't but then there were. The celebration happened when clock was at 0.0 and horn had sounded. Refs then went to monitor' date=' realized there were 0.4 seconds left and then assessed the T.[/quote']

 

Ok. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah that's a crap move by the officials.

They didn't get a technical foul for this...

 

I know. They got a technical foul because the referees were idiots.

Just to add some clarity to this: the officials didn't penalize the team running onto the court, they penalized the fans for interference. Since the NCAA has placed court storming as a point of emphasis for the safety of all involved, I can certainly see why the officials applied the technical foul. Given that the fans entered the court during live ball play, this is the correct rule interpretation, just misapplied and the crew is penalized for it.

 

Shoe meet other foot: Fans storm the court, visiting team member gets trucked at division line and injuried, officials do nothing....

 

Do we suspend the AD for not maintaining control of fans ? That is a pure game management issue and a serious concern for any visiting team or officials in that situation....

How do you penalize a team for fans being on the court? How do you know which fans they are?

I know. They got a technical foul because the referees were idiots.

 

Spoken as a true fan....

How do you penalize a team for fans being on the court? How do you know which fans they are?

 

I would assume, although some on here may disagree just because, that the losing fans do not typically storm the court when the other team hits the go ahead....

 

I don't think it's that tough, but some on here may differ, as they seem to get better angles on the rule book...:banana:

The rule referenced reads: "Team followers (fans, bands, cheerleaders and mascots associated with either team) shall not commit an unsportsmanlike act, including, but not limited to, the following … Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being promptly made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers entering the playing court before the player activity has been terminated." The penalty is two free throws awarded to the offended team.

The rule referenced reads: "Team followers (fans, bands, cheerleaders and mascots associated with either team) shall not commit an unsportsmanlike act, including, but not limited to, the following … Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being promptly made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers entering the playing court before the player activity has been terminated." The penalty is two free throws awarded to the offended team.

 

So what was the T for in that rule? Because if its the "followers entering the playing court before the player activity has been terminated", the player activity was terminated when the clock went to 0.0 and the horn sounded.

I would assume, although some on here may disagree just because, that the losing fans do not typically storm the court when the other team hits the go ahead....

 

I don't think it's that tough, but some on here may differ, as they seem to get better angles on the rule book...:banana:

Common sense would say it's the winning teams fans, but common season also tells us when the clock shows 0.0 and the horn sounds the game is over.

the player activity was terminated when the clock went to 0.0 and the horn sounded.

 

Yep.

The rule referenced reads: "Team followers (fans, bands, cheerleaders and mascots associated with either team) shall not commit an unsportsmanlike act, including, but not limited to, the following … Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being promptly made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers entering the playing court before the player activity has been terminated." The penalty is two free throws awarded to the offended team.

 

So basically as a fan of team A I could come on the court and stop delay team A from in bounding the ball in order to get team B a technical? Again, in the game that is in question, how do we know 100% that all the fans on the court were from the team that hit the shot? Doesn't it only take one?

Spoken as a true fan....

 

No. Spoken as someone who has played basketball for more than 30 years, covered it professionally for 6 years and watched more than 100 games per year during those 6 years.

 

I guess the league officials who suspended these refs are also just speaking as fans.

So what was the T for in that rule? Because if its the "followers entering the playing court before the player activity has been terminated", the player activity was terminated when the clock went to 0.0 and the horn sounded.

 

Common sense would say it's the winning teams fans, but common season also tells us when the clock shows 0.0 and the horn sounds the game is over.

 

Everybody thought the game was over because the clock went to 0 and the horn sounded.

 

If there was still 0.4 showing on the clock after the ball went through the hoop, and the players still left the bench, this wouldn't be a discussion. That would clearly be a technical.

 

But that's not what happened here.

 

Bench nailed it earlier when he said the officials should have cleared the floor, put the time back on the clock, and played out the remaining 0.4.