December 30, 201510 yr What current member(s) do you think least deserve to be there? List Of Members In The Pro Football Hall Of Fame - Wikipedia
December 30, 201510 yr There is such a divide between eras, the separation point probably being the 1960s or 70s. Cliff Battles is inducted into the hall with a 5 year career. You also have some "pre-modern era" inductees in there as well that are hard to judge and I think the selection of offensive linemen is incredibly subjective. Not saying there aren't many that belong in the hall, just saying it's a tough call when it comes to that position. Oh, and Dan Fouts. Because he's Dan Fouts.
December 30, 201510 yr My all time fave player, Lynn Swann has pedestrian numbers when compared to this era. I'm glad he's in, but surely understand where he might be omitted.
December 30, 201510 yr My all time fave player, Lynn Swann has pedestrian numbers when compared to this era. I'm glad he's in, but surely understand where he might be omitted. My dad used to wonder out loud had he not caught that pass against Dallas in the Super Bowl would he have been in the Hall of Fame. (Dad was a much bigger Stallworth fan, by the way)
December 30, 201510 yr My dad used to wonder out loud had he not caught that pass against Dallas in the Super Bowl would he have been in the Hall of Fame. (Dad was a much bigger Stallworth fan, by the way) Sure would have been nice to see that tandem in an offense of this era.
December 31, 201510 yr There is such a divide between eras, the separation point probably being the 1960s or 70s. Cliff Battles is inducted into the hall with a 5 year career. You also have some "pre-modern era" inductees in there as well that are hard to judge and I think the selection of offensive linemen is incredibly subjective. Not saying there aren't many that belong in the hall, just saying it's a tough call when it comes to that position. Oh, and Dan Fouts. Because he's Dan Fouts. Kenny Anderson should be in before Fouts IMO. Plus Fouts should be kicked out of the HOF for being such a bad color guy in the booth:lol2:...one of my least favorite guys in the booth...
December 31, 201510 yr How about Joe Willie Namath...besides the SB guaranty, does his career numbers really warrant HOF??? They are actually worse than I thought. 50.1% completion%, 173 TD's and 220 ints!!!! Never completed 53% of his passes in any single year...ever...and he is in the HOF??
December 31, 201510 yr Kenny Anderson should be in before Fouts IMO. Plus Fouts should be kicked out of the HOF for being such a bad color guy in the booth:lol2:...one of my least favorite guys in the booth... This. :thumb:
December 31, 201510 yr How about Joe Willie Namath...besides the SB guaranty, does his career numbers really warrant HOF??? They are actually worse than I thought. 50.1% completion%, 173 TD's and 220 ints!!!! Never completed 53% of his passes in any single year...ever...and he is in the HOF?? It's the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Stats. Namath changed the persona of the NFL. That can't be statistically evaluated.
December 31, 201510 yr It's the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Stats. Namath changed the persona of the NFL. That can't be statistically evaluated. I don't totally disagree Rat. I was just blown away with how average...no, make that how bad, his numbers were. Amazing how one game basically put him in the HOF...
December 31, 201510 yr I don't totally disagree Rat. I was just blown away with how average...no, make that how bad, his numbers were. Amazing how one game basically put him in the HOF... It wasn't just one game, though that game would have been enough. Star, Unitas, and Gifford, were sterile personalities by comparison. Football was a mans sport played by rough ugly thugs. Joe Willie was the first great celebrity of the NFL. He appealed to everybody and brought people to the game that did not pay attention to football prior to 1969, including, and most importantly, women. When I was taking Logic 101 at Marquette in 1981, the professor spent 2 complete sessions discussing the effects of Joe Namath on society at large. That's why he is in the hall of fame.
December 31, 201510 yr It wasn't just one game, though that game would have been enough. Star, Unitas, and Gifford, were sterile personalities by comparison. Football was a mans sport played by rough ugly thugs. Joe Willie was the first great celebrity of the NFL. He appealed to everybody and brought people to the game that did not pay attention to football prior to 1969, including, and most importantly, women. When I was taking Logic 101 at Marquette in 1981, the professor spent 2 complete sessions discussing the effects of Joe Namath on society at large. That's why he is in the hall of fame. Care to indulge us more?
December 31, 201510 yr Kenny Anderson should be in before Fouts IMO. Plus Fouts should be kicked out of the HOF for being such a bad color guy in the booth:lol2:...one of my least favorite guys in the booth... I think Fouts is decent in the booth.
December 31, 201510 yr Care to indulge us more? It was a philosophy course, so there were no black and white "right" answers. I always thought the term "logic", when applied to philosophy, was an oxymoron. I didn't keep detailed notes and it was 34 years ago. However, I remember analysis ranged from his effect on style and attitude to female sexuality, and even certain aspects of homo erotica (controversial in 1981 in any corner of the country, but especially at a Catholic university). We took close to one full session (50 minutes) discussing the panty hose ad, alone. Joe kind of represented the counter culture, among the NFL players, that the rest of the country was experiencing at the time. Namath was followed by the 1st generation of paparazzi. He was all over the place, too. A fascinating individual.
December 31, 201510 yr It wasn't just one game, though that game would have been enough. Star, Unitas, and Gifford, were sterile personalities by comparison. Football was a mans sport played by rough ugly thugs. Joe Willie was the first great celebrity of the NFL. He appealed to everybody and brought people to the game that did not pay attention to football prior to 1969, including, and most importantly, women. When I was taking Logic 101 at Marquette in 1981, the professor spent 2 complete sessions discussing the effects of Joe Namath on society at large. That's why he is in the hall of fame. We will have to agree to disagree on this one Rat. I have looked into his career numbers a little more. His record at QB was 77-108-3 (ties). He won 2 playoff games in his career (the game before the SB and the SB that year). He only played in one more...and lost. So a guy who barely completed 50% of his passes, threw approx. 50 more int's than TD's, lost 31 more games than he won and only played in three playoff games in his career is a HOF'er? You are basically saying he is in the HOF because of one game (and frankly he had a pretty pedestrian SB - threw for just over 200 yards and no TD's and no int's and did not throw one pass in the 4th quarter - the running game and great defense is why they won that game) and because the ladies thought he was hot and men thought he was cool. Sorry, that is not enough for me to be in the HOF...to each his own though...
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