Nice try, mcpapa. But in reality, where we all happen to be, Americans are fed up with the political bull. It is time to take a stand or there may not be anything to stand for.

 

My worry - and it's not entirely hyperbolic - is that we'll be standing under a mushroom cloud.

Let's not forget that Carter did the same thing during the Iran war. Oops, the Lame Stream Lying Media didn't remind you of that little fact did they. Not only did he ban them from coming to this country, he also DEPORTED approximately 15,000 Iranians that were already here.

 

Irrelevant. We also used to think it acceptable to own other humans. As we've moved forward in time, we've progressed as a society. Just because things were done in the past, doesn't make it any less wrong. It was wrong when Carter did it, and it'd be wrong to do today.

 

How in the world is blatant discrimination of an entire group of people ever okay in this day and age??

Let's not forget that Carter did the same thing during the Iran war. Oops, the Lame Stream Lying Media didn't remind you of that little fact did they. Not only did he ban them from coming to this country, he also DEPORTED approximately 15,000 Iranians that were already here.

 

As I asked in the related thread. Was President Carter's action directed toward Iranians, or Muslims?

 

Subtle but extraordinarily significant difference.

Looking past all his outlandishly bigoted remarks (and there's a ton of them), the thing that makes Trump dangerous to me is he's unstable. The dude gets ticked off and sounds off right now.

 

Imagine what he could do if he actually had some power?

 

Putin makes him mad, what's he gonna do push the little red button and start WWIII?

 

Cut any and all ties with any country that doesn't fall in lockstep with his way of thinking?

 

Kinda gives a new slant on the catchphrase "YOU'RE FIRED!", doesn't it?

I am not a Carter fan but I think he did the right thing at that point in time. His action was against citizens of a country basically at war with the US. We are not at war with Muslims. Big difference.

I am not a Carter fan but I think he did the right thing at that point in time. His action was against citizens of a country basically at war with the US. We are not at war with Muslims. Big difference.

 

Like I said...

As I asked in the related thread. Was President Carter's action directed toward Iranians, or Muslims?

 

Subtle but extraordinarily significant difference.

 

The ban, by Carter, was aimed at a particular "group" of people with a similar ideology. I am sure not all Iranians felt the same way, but eliminating (at least temporarily) any threat was the reasoning. Same with FDR. Your subtle but extraordinary differences are no different than saying dogs and animals that bark.

I am not a Carter fan but I think he did the right thing at that point in time. His action was against citizens of a country basically at war with the US. We are not at war with Muslims. Big difference.

 

Now we are getting somewhere. Yes, we have not declared war on Muslims. However, they have (at least a particular group of them) have declared war on us, and until we can differentiate between those that want us (yes you are included) DEAD, and those that have opposing values, this again is the right move. These folks do not want to overthrow our government, make us submit to their beliefs, or just intermingle with us. IT IS ABOUT ANNIHILATION of the western way of life.

There are very very few quality candidates on either side of the aisle. The only one that could get my vote is Rand Paul, and unfortunately he's got no chance. Senator Rubio is a quality candidate as well IMO. VP Biden would've been another quality candidate had he chosen to run IMO.

 

I could have typed that myself. With Biden deciding not to run there's nobody to consider on the left. Paul won't advance for sure. So that leaves Rubio.

The one thing Trump's candidacy has proven, without a shadow of a doubt IMO, is that this country is full of nut jobs.

 

There are actual real life oxygen breathing people that support this guy. Boggles the mind. :idunno:

 

I know exactly how you feel, and these were my exact thoughts when we reelected Obama.

As I asked in the related thread. Was President Carter's action directed toward Iranians, or Muslims?

 

Subtle but extraordinarily significant difference.

 

Carters actions were directed at Iran, which currently is about 98% Muslim. Extraordinarily significant difference may be a little overkill.

Religion versus nation.

 

I stand by my phraseology.

People do realize that Iran is one country out of multiple that has a religion predominately comprised of Muslims? Had Carter turned away all citizens from Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, etc. that would make more sense. Something tells me Trump wasn't thinking of Jimmy Carter when he stated what he did. Or if he was, the irony is hilarious in that Republicans are using Jimmy Carter to make a point.

There are very very few quality candidates on either side of the aisle. The only one that could get my vote is Rand Paul, and unfortunately he's got no chance. Senator Rubio is a quality candidate as well IMO. VP Biden would've been another quality candidate had he chosen to run IMO.

I think there is a very real possibility that Trump is chased off by the republican party and runs as an independent. This would open the door in the republican race to several candidates that are currently lagging behind. While he comes off a bit creepy, Cruz has been smart enough to echo some of Trumps thoughts on a more reserved scale. Could be a most interesting election.

I think there is a very real possibility that Trump is chased off by the republican party and runs as an independent. This would open the door in the republican race to several candidates that are currently lagging behind. While he comes off a bit creepy, Cruz has been smart enough to echo some of Trumps thoughts on a more reserved scale. Could be a most interesting election.

That is what I've been saying about Cruz. Trump's lost voters will be his gain. He knows this and why Cruz has staying power.