Lipton Bash once again hollers "racist" in a crowded theater.

 

You still haven't figured out it was a running joke I was doing , when the rest of the posters got exactly what I was doing.

All I need to know about someone's character is how they treat their mother. You going to sell out your first born as well to prove all republicans are racist.

Why am I even engaging this juvenile topic. I'm out.

Is supporting a candidate simply because of his/her race just as racist as opposing a candidate due to his/her race?

 

I'm not black but I think probably blacks felt a great sense of pride at having the opportunity to vote for this President. That's seems to have a more positive feel than not voting for someone because of his skin color, which has a very ugly feel to it.

No; because when it comes to politics, you are a one trick pony and a lot of us just find your act old and very tiring. I saw the length of your initial post and was going to read it and then thought...why bother...so I didn't...

I'm not black but I think probably blacks felt a great sense of pride at having the opportunity to vote for this President. That's seems to have a more positive feel than not voting for someone because of his skin color, which has a very ugly feel to it.

 

To state differently, when the right does it, it's RACIST!!! When the left does, it just has such a nice flowery feel to it. Just lemon drops and rainbows all around. Notice the double standard?

 

Now, I will concede when discrimination is against the majority who is stronger economically it does do less harm to the majority than to the minority but either way, to claim that is isn't wrong is somehow a positive thing is simply naivety and a serious lack of objective thinking.

To state differently, when the right does it, it's RACIST!!! When the left does, it just has such a nice flowery feel to it. Just lemon drops and rainbows all around. Notice the double standard?

 

Now, I will concede when discrimination is against the majority who is stronger economically it does do less harm to the majority than to the minority but either way, to claim that is isn't wrong is somehow a positive thing is simply naivety and a serious lack of objective thinking.

 

Being Catholic, I will ad that Catholics who voted for JFK simply because he is Catholic are wrong just like the protestants who didn't vote for him just because he is Catholic.

Being Catholic, I will ad that Catholics who voted for JFK simply because he is Catholic are wrong just like the protestants who didn't vote for him just because he is Catholic.

 

My grandparents and my dad voted for Nixon(the only Republican they ever voted for) because they were convinced Kennedy would answer to the Pope. My grandparents regretted that vote until the day they died.

I image she does not like many of his policies and the discussions elevated to louder tones as the conversation progressed. It just may be difficult for you to accept the fact that she does not like his policies.

I have two sisters who are polar opposites politically that they can't even be in the same room together without inevitably falling negatively into friction.

 

While growing up, and into their adult lives I never knew either of them to be at all politically charged or particularly interested enough to become "informed", however one married a staunch democrat, while the other a staunch republican.

 

Over the years there has been a distinct difference in their behaviors where while their spouses tend to have the good sense to hold their tongue pretty well in mixed company, and even get along with each other, my sisters just can't and won't.

 

It would appear that the effect that their hubbies have had on them behind closed doors, and the little bit of information they now have has been disturbingly dangerous as they now have a self perceived idea that they are the authority on all political matters.

 

While they're content in feeling highly of themselves they fail to see where they come off to others as being downright ignorant in their approach.

 

Neither normally utter much resounding rhetoric that reflects real support of the party they are affiliated with, but mostly scream out against the party that they do not support.

 

The one who is a democrat doesn't seem to be nearly as incensed as the one who is republican. The democrat, though she claims to be, speaks way more conservatively than you would find most democrats speak, and while she by the family somehow is viewed as an extreme democrat, and even by herself, I fail to see it, and would mostly consider her to be more a moderate straddling the line of almost coming close to being more republican than she is even aware.

 

I've never shared this observation with her because I'm content with staying away from political conversations with the both of them.

 

With the republican sister being so republican, the democrat sister seems more content on claiming to be democrat so as to not admit sharing anything that resembles similar views as the republican sister, even if she at times does.

 

I have a third sister who claims to be right down the middle is now, because of the influence of the republican sister preying on her mind because she'll repetitively magnify to the 3rd sister where she is being screwed by the present administration, is now beginning to swing more to the right.

 

The 3rd sister has been convinced by the republican sister that she has remained irresponsibly ignorant for years, and while at first was resistant, is now buying into it.

 

The 3rd sister has been divorced for years and never remarried, so there's been no influence of a man in her life like the other two sisters, to previously have formed a staunch political position.

 

Sadly the 4th and oldest sister who was the most even tempered and sensible passed away a few years ago of brain cancer.

 

The republican sister is off the charts extreme, and might even annoy most moderate republicans with her constant obsession with knocking the democratic party.

 

I'm assuming though that she does regularly find others who are similar to her that she can fulfill her need to scream her objections with without it turning into an argument.

 

It's ridiculous to witness and hard to be around. Not so much that I might at times have varying or different views to hers, but just the downright relentless obsession as if she knows all while cramming negatively into everyone's face at every opportunity.

 

Just about anything will trigger in her some ignorant incensed response that could almost classify her as clinically insane. It's become such a crazy habit with her that even the most subtle topics can turn political within the blink of an eye.

 

Before I was aware that this habit was forming in her, as I didn't see it coming, she cornered me with a loaded political question that blind sided me.

 

I answered with what I suppose was not the answer she wanted, and instantly had hell to pay.

 

I had to from then on remind myself that she was now deeply submerged into a heavy political state of mind and to always be prepared to do my best to change the topic if at all possible.

 

As a kid she was always quick to controversy, so I'm guessing that now political speak is a way for her to funnel this behavior of hers to always be on the edge of being argumentative.

 

It might no longer be about who has touched an object in the house that belonged to her that might set her off, but now because she doesn't have the benefit of finding fault by living under the same roof as her siblings, the reasons to argue have primarily shifted to political, though she'll still find other topics to argue about just to keep a balance I suppose.

 

She's not alone with this as there seems to be a growing problematic trend with many in society feeling like their identity begins and ends with their party affiliation while claiming that others who do not think and act this way are being irresponsibly ill-informed.

 

Sort of similar to extreme religious folks feeling responsible for everyone else's religious beliefs that they rarely get through a whole day without making someone else know where they stand, and that everyone else better get on board if they know what's good for them.

Edited November 28, 201510 yr by B-Ball-fan

 

She's not alone with this as there seems to be a growing problematic trend with many in society feeling like they're identity begins and ends with their party affiliation while claiming that others who do not think and act this way are being irresponsibly ill-informed.

 

Sort of similar to extreme religious folks feeling responsible for everyone else's religious beliefs that they rarely get through a whole day without making someone else know where they stand, and that everyone else better get on board if they know what's good for them.

 

Party affiliation, religious preference, heck - you could argue that with some folks it's their favorite sports team.

 

Fortunately, some of us are bigger onions. More layers to peel.

The comments that I hear weekly in the area where I live aren't fairytales. There is a very strong undercurrent of racial and xenophobic nastiness in every community, mostly from those whose political leanings are well on the right of the spectrum. I get the feeling that papa sees and hears the things that I do each and every week. It is, indeed, the elephant in the room.

 

Yes there are areas of the state that are very racist to their core. I've worked all over Kentucky and it can vary strongly from one town to the next. Some towns were not only racist but some of the people were proud of it...but those places and those people are dying off for the most part. I'd be willing to bet that you live in one of those old time hot spots of racism that have been known for what they were for decades.

Yes there are areas of the state that are very racist to their core. I've worked all over Kentucky and it can vary strongly from one town to the next. Some towns were not only racist but some of the people were proud of it...but those places and those people are dying off for the most part. I'd be willing to bet that you live in one of those old time hot spots of racism that have been known for what they were for decades.

 

I think you pretty much know I do. However, I don't know if it's all that much worse than towns in Clay, Jackson, Laurel, Knox, Pulaski or any other little hamlet in southern or eastern KY. Certainly, my hometown has a terrible reputation, much of it deserved, but I've encountered areas that were probably as bad or worse. As you alluded to in your post, the older racists are dying off and that may lessen the problem. I hope you're right. It's been a slow process around here. My hometown's negative reputation on race relations was so well-known that a documentary was made on the town's history of racial issues. The documentary was required viewing, from what I understand, in sociology classes at various colleges all over the country.

I think you pretty much know I do. However, I don't know if it's all that much worse than towns in Clay, Jackson, Laurel, Knox, Pulaski or any other little hamlet in southern or eastern KY. Certainly, my hometown has a terrible reputation, much of it deserved, but I've encountered areas that were probably as bad or worse. As you alluded to in your post, the older racists are dying off and that may lessen the problem. I hope you're right. It's been a slow process around here. My hometown's negative reputation on race relations was so well-known that a documentary was made on the town's history of racial issues. The documentary was required viewing, from what I understand, in sociology classes at various colleges all over the country.

 

I've spent time in each of the counties you mentioned as well as your hometown...and it's not close in those communities what I saw compared to your hometown. Only place I worked that was worse in KY, or at least as bad was in far Eastern Ky. But I will add your hometown is much better today than it was 25 years ago when I was there in the late 80's to early 90's.

 

The worst place I ever lived was a small town in Indiana...a lot of people were great but there were some (more than 1) that actually called me demanding that I fire someone simply because they were black.

I've spent time in each of the counties you mentioned as well as your hometown...and it's not close in those communities what I saw compared to your hometown. Only place I worked that was worse in KY, or at least as bad was in far Eastern Ky. But I will add your hometown is much better today than it was 25 years ago when I was there in the late 80's to early 90's.

 

The worst place I ever lived was a small town in Indiana...a lot of people were great but there were some (more than 1) that actually called me demanding that I fire someone simply because they were black.

 

One anecdote. I was tutoring a fellow at EKU about two decades ago. The young man was from Saudi Arabia. During our first meeting, he asked me where I was from. When I told him the place of my birth, I was taken aback when he knew of the place .Although he had just recently come to EKU from his home country, he said( in broken English, of course), "Isn't that the home of that KKK group?"

 

Jumper, may I ask what are some of the things you saw here over the past twenty-five years that made it worse? Also, I agree that it is better today than it was years ago, probably due to the deaths of some of the older people. It's still far from great. Then again, it's not great when you look at the racial problems across the country.