Only 11 teams have NOT missed an extra point kick this season as of today, by contrast last season only 6 teams had a missed XPAT kick.

 

This season 40 XPAT Kicks have been Missed while last season only 8 were Missed all season.

There are currently 5 teams with a higher % of FG made than made PATs.

 

 

64 2pt Conversions have been Attempted versus 59 Attempted all of last season and 69 attempted back in 2013

30 2pt Conversions have been Completed versus 28 Completed all of last season

 

 

So even though the number of PAT Kicks missed has went up dramatically it would seem NFL coaches are slow to attempt any more 2pt attempts than in the past.

I like the rule change and I think we will slowly see an increase in 2pt attempts in seasons to come.

I like the change.

I love the change...make the meaningless pat meaningful now.

I have a quick question. (Thought of this yesterday, when someone had a penalty on the extra point try.)

 

Say you state you want to go for 2, but end up with a false start penalty. Can you change, and say you'd rather go for 1 instead and have the penalty distance marked of from there (making it a 38 yard attempt)? Or, conversely, say you line up for 1, and have an offsides called against the defense...can you take that penalty and apply it from where you'd go for 2 instead?

I have a quick question. (Thought of this yesterday, when someone had a penalty on the extra point try.)

 

Say you state you want to go for 2, but end up with a false start penalty. Can you change, and say you'd rather go for 1 instead and have the penalty distance marked of from there (making it a 38 yard attempt)? Or, conversely, say you line up for 1, and have an offsides called against the defense...can you take that penalty and apply it from where you'd go for 2 instead?

 

Good question! I had wondered that also.

There's been over 2 more 2 point conversion attempts per week than there were last season. I'd say that's a pretty significant increase.

There's been over 2 more 2 point conversion attempts per week than there were last season. I'd say that's a pretty significant increase.

 

And it will keep going up I think...

I have a quick question. (Thought of this yesterday, when someone had a penalty on the extra point try.)

 

Say you state you want to go for 2, but end up with a false start penalty. Can you change, and say you'd rather go for 1 instead and have the penalty distance marked of from there (making it a 38 yard attempt)? Or, conversely, say you line up for 1, and have an offsides called against the defense...can you take that penalty and apply it from where you'd go for 2 instead?

 

Good question! I had wondered that also.

 

If they choose to go for 2 and are called for a penalty they can then change to a 1 point try with the penalty yardage added on from the 15.

I like the rule change as well.

I like the change when it affects my teams and fantasy kickers positively. I hate it when it affects them negatively.

I like the change when it affects my teams and fantasy kickers positively. I hate it when it affects them negatively.

He speaks the Truth!

 

You know someone out there somewhere had the Pittsburgh Kicker early in the season when they went for 2 twice back to back instead of kicking a PAT and he lost his Fantasy game by 1 point! :lol2:

A team’s choice to go for one or two will be set when the referee signals the ball is ready for play. The choice cannot be changed at that point, except after a timeout or a penalty. (The offense also may not change the position of the ball between the hash marks, except after a timeout or penalty.)

 

The previous rule on extra-point attempts would enforce defensive penalties on the ensuing kickoff, but if the conversion attempt was no good, the penalty allowed for a retry. Now penalty enforcement has become more muddled with the addition of two lines of scrimmage for the conversion attempt. As a throwback to its rugby origins, the rulebook refers to this play as a Try.

 

On any foul on the Try, generally, the offense has the option of enforcing the penalty from the 15- or the 2-yard line. This option includes penalties that the offense committed. The option to assess on the kickoff also remains. So, if there is a defensive penalty on a kick that snaps from the 15, the offense can try another one-point try from the 7½-yard line, or go for two points from the 1-yard line.

 

Similarly, if the offense is assessed a penalty on a two-point Try, and the penalty is accepted, they may opt to have the enforcement go back from the 15 and kick from there. However, since the defense can possess the ball, there are additional considerations that have to be made. The defense is going to decline an offensive foul if the offense did not score. The only provisions for an offensive foul to be carried forward to the kickoff are for 15-yard fouls or if the offense fouls after a change of possession.

 

This is where I will start to lose a lot of you. There are a few more caveats to the general enforcement rules in the table below. First, a defensive pass interference foul is a spot foul, and generally will result in the ball being placed at the 1-yard line (foul occurring in the end zone). A DPI cannot carry forward to the kickoff, so if the two points were scored despite the interference, then the penalty is declined. The offense may run a one- or two-point play from the succeeding spot after a DPI penalty. Also, to avoid a situation where a major 15-yard foul might be declined under normal enforcement, those fouls are carried forward to the kickoff, unless that foul is used to re-Try or to nullify a score.

 

We also are not considering fouls by the defense on the touchdown or post-touchdown fouls by either team. Those continue to be enforced only on the kickoff. Once the referee makes the ready-for-play signal, any subsequent foul is determined to be on the Try attempt and not pinned to the touchdown

 

One additional consideration is if one team has a 15-yard foul and the other a simple-5 (five yards, but no automatic first down, no loss of down, etc.). This is a 5 vs. 15 enforcement, which will disregard the 5-yarder and enforce the 15-yarder. In the case of a 5 vs. 15 enforcement, the Try must be replayed, with any result from the previous one wiped out. The 15-yard penalty is assessed on the Retry or the kickoff at the option of the team committing the simple-5, but the offense can always choose which Retry line to enforce from. The option to decline a 5 vs. 15 is not available.

 

If there are fouls on consecutive Try attempts, the rules still revert to an enforcement from the previous spot (where the ball was last snapped) or from the other Try spot. Reading the rule literally, this means that the offense could be penalized 10 yards for holding on the first attempt, and they can snap from the 25 for the next kick. If on the second attempt, the defense fouls, it is enforced from the previous spot (the 25), or the offense can take the ball to the other Try spot and enforce half the distance to the 1-yard line. In a different scenario, if offensive holding is called on two consecutive kick attempts, rather than snap from the 35 for a kick, the offense may opt to run or pass from the 12, using the other Try spot as the enforcement point. We have not been able to confirm these scenarios, but this is exactly how the rule is written.

 

And, finally, for the penalty department: if a touchdown is scored at the expiration of the half, the Try is still attempted, even if it has no impact on the score. (Exception: there are no Try attempts in overtime.) If there are any fouls that would carry forward to the kickoff, they are nullified. The half cannot be extended by an untimed down due to a foul on the touchdown or on the conversion Try.

 

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