Dr Ben has as much chance of being the nominee as Johnny Carson.

 

John Ashcroft lost an election to a dead guy, so why not?

Can anyone name a country governed by a Muslim that is not a theocracy, ruled by a tribe, or ruled by a dictator?

 

Is there a Muslim democracy or Republic?

 

Turkey, for all its faults, has made a good effort.

Turkey, for all its faults, has made a good effort.

 

They have and so has Indonesia, but they are turning into a hybrid dictatorship.

I know someone who, while in college during/after Sept 11th, helped hide a Muslim classmate. They were worried for his safety.

 

Have a friend who had a similar experience during the hostage crises in 1980.

It's a religion that stands squarely against the principles regarding Church and State that this country was founded on. Folks who hold to that religion do not owe their allegiance to the United States and will work to topple this country that we've worked so hard to build and defend. It's a religion with a history of bloodshed, torture, and a global conspiracy to dominate the world. No one of this faith should be trusted with public office.

 

All of the things above were said, but not about Muslims. They all popped up regarding the candidacy of Al Smith, a Roman Catholic, during the presidential election of 1928.

 

There is nothing new under the sun.

 

And 30 years later we elected a Catholic. It takes time.

Looks like he didn't want to eliminate them for students that needed them, according to PP's link he said.

 

I like it!

They have and so has Indonesia, but they are turning into a hybrid dictatorship.

 

Keep in mind I'm comparing them to the rest of the Islamic world and not the Western-style democracies. They still got a ways to go.

MayfieldFan - The obvious question concerning all those Sharia Law polls, were the Muslim women allowed to vote? Jk, sorta. Some good data there.

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We should just let the Muslims have America, implement Sharia Law for everyone,and see how nice we used to have it.

 

Maybe then people will realize political correctness, intolerance, is over used.

 

We will have a drastic reduction in population in America for sure.

Then how come we try to force their countries to become a democratic state?

 

nation building

If this is the case and the crazy Muslims are headed this way aren't we doing ourselves a disservice by being unable to fully separate the church and the state?

 

I understand why you're asking but haven't we (the U.S.) resolved that already? Do we have any major religions creating national laws?

 

If groups of like-minded citizens (religious in this case) believe every citizen should be required to attend church every Sunday, and they somehow get a majority of their neighbors to go along and they elect a representative to try to enact legislation that supports mandatory church attendance, he or she still has to persuade a majority of national representatives to go along and vote for it. Then they still have to get a majority of senators and the President to sign on.

 

The point being, representatives that come at their job from a religious background carry no more weight than the other hundreds of representatives in Congress.

 

There is certainly not a majority of fundamentalist citizens or representatives in the country. So we clearly have a separation of church as state, as it were.

 

If you have strong religious convictions that influence your voting, and I am the opposite, we both have the same right to fight for our beliefs, persuade others, and vote accordingly.

I understand why you're asking but haven't we (the U.S.) resolved that already? Do we have any major religions creating national laws?

 

If groups of like-minded citizens (religious in this case) believe every citizen should be required to attend church every Sunday, and they somehow get a majority of their neighbors to go along and they elect a representative to try to enact legislation that supports mandatory church attendance, he or she still has to persuade a majority of national representatives to go along and vote for it. Then they still have to get a majority of senators and the President to sign on.

 

The point being, representatives that come at their job from a religious background carry no more weight than the other hundreds of representatives in Congress.

 

There is certainly not a majority of fundamentalist citizens or representatives in the country. So we clearly have a separation of church as state, as it were.

 

If you have strong religious convictions that influence your voting, and I am the opposite, we both have the same right to fight for our beliefs, persuade others, and vote accordingly.

 

I definitely agree. I guess I am thinking more about the politicians like Huckabee whose religious convictions are a big part of his political persona. I could see a Muslim equivalent to Huckabee emerging one day. Granted they likely wouldn't go far while running for political office until they can get the numbers to sway the election.

 

Then what?

I understand why you're asking but haven't we (the U.S.) resolved that already? Do we have any major religions creating national laws?

 

If groups of like-minded citizens (religious in this case) believe every citizen should be required to attend church every Sunday, and they somehow get a majority of their neighbors to go along and they elect a representative to try to enact legislation that supports mandatory church attendance, he or she still has to persuade a majority of national representatives to go along and vote for it. Then they still have to get a majority of senators and the President to sign on.

 

The point being, representatives that come at their job from a religious background carry no more weight than the other hundreds of representatives in Congress.

 

There is certainly not a majority of fundamentalist citizens or representatives in the country. So we clearly have a separation of church as state, as it were.

 

If you have strong religious convictions that influence your voting, and I am the opposite, we both have the same right to fight for our beliefs, persuade others, and vote accordingly.

 

No. for an explanation, consult the Constitution.

Posted by Bluetip:

"If groups of like-minded citizens (religious in this case) believe every citizen should be required to attend church every Sunday, and they somehow get a majority of their neighbors to go along and they elect a representative to try to enact legislation that supports mandatory church attendance, he or she still has to persuade a majority of national representatives to go along and vote for it. Then they still have to get a majority of senators and the President to sign on."

 

True, then they have to get it past the inevitable Supreme Court challenge.