I can definitely agree we need reform. My first suggestion is that the administrative processes be streamlined to reduce redundancy and avenues for fraud.

I agree. System abuse is real, prevalent, common and all the other adjectives I can throw out there. I see it firsthand, every single day. I get tired of those who poo poo the notion that it exists when they have no real experience with it, but it just doesn't fit their political slant. Yeah, that torques me a bit. I get super frustrated when I see people who are trying and can't get the help they need to get over the hump, frankly, because they are trying. What the hell kind of incentive to be a productive working member of society is that?

I agree. System abuse is real, prevalent, common and all the other adjectives I can throw out there. I see it firsthand, every single day. I get tired of those who poo poo the notion that it exists when they have no real experience with it, but it just doesn't fit their political slant. Yeah, that torques me a bit. I get super frustrated when I see people who are trying and can't get the help they need to get over the hump, frankly, because they are trying. What the hell kind of incentive to be a productive working member of society is that?

 

Preachin' to the choir, spin. And without administrative reforms and streamlining of processes, no other reform will rectify the abuse. That is where it has to begin. There will be work still to do, but the foundation has to be repaired first.

I agree. System abuse is real, prevalent, common and all the other adjectives I can throw out there. I see it firsthand, every single day. I get tired of those who poo poo the notion that it exists when they have no real experience with it, but it just doesn't fit their political slant. Yeah, that torques me a bit. I get super frustrated when I see people who are trying and can't get the help they need to get over the hump, frankly, because they are trying. What the hell kind of incentive to be a productive working member of society is that?

 

The worst part is the many people who truly need the help but cannot get as much as they otherwise might if there were not so much fraud draining the resources.

Question, what actually happened in the first overhaul?

 

Some of the points in the 1996 law:

1. A person was limited to five years of benefits

2. Head of family had to get a job after two years of benefits

3. Community service could be required

4. Teenage parents under 18 had to stay in school

5. Single welfare moms had to identify the father or lose 25% of their benefits

6. Legal immigrants could not receive welfare. Again, legal immigrants.

Some of the points in the 1996 law:

1. A person was limited to five years of benefits

2. Head of family had to get a job after two years of benefits

3. Community service could be required

4. Teenage parents under 18 had to stay in school

5. Single welfare moms had to identify the father or lose 25% of their benefits

6. Legal immigrants could not receive welfare. Again, legal immigrants.

And how's that workin? No real sense going down the line to see a line item failure.

And how's that workin? No real sense going down the line to see a line item failure.

Working better than the previous system, obviously, since we're not hearing a continuous chorus in Congress for further large-scale reform. I would also argue that the loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S. over the past 25 years must be assigned significant blame, as well as the reluctance to raise the minimum wage. The latter explains why more than half of those on government assistance already have a job.

 

Having said that, I now look forward to the first-person accounts of welfare abuse that without doubt prove the system is beyond repair.

Working better than the previous system, obviously, since we're not hearing a continuous chorus in Congress for further large-scale reform. I would also argue that the loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S. over the past 25 years must be assigned significant blame, as well as the reluctance to raise the minimum wage. The latter explains why more than half of those on government assistance already have a job.

 

Having said that, I now look forward to the first-person accounts of welfare abuse that without doubt prove the system is beyond repair.

Yeah, because congress isn't harping on it, it must not be a problem. And then the tangent. You're incredibly predictable. I'd like to know your dealing with folks on welfare. Please enlighten us with your hands on tribulations. And no one said the system was beyond repair. But you keep doin you with the typical rhetoric.