Of course we don't know it as a fact, but I believe as do many others that there would be a more than fair chance that Male and Manual would year in and year out be the top dogs, with another school here and there throwing their hat into the ring...really no different than it is now, just the names of the schools would change.

 

Well we know the current X & T have won 90% of the championships the last 22 years. We are only assuming that Male and Manual would ascend to the top. But they have more losses to public schools than X & T. Again the gap would be narrower then it is now. Didn’t 7th ID get disbanded..Thank you for your service.

Proves enrollment isn't always the deciding factor...which is what the point you were trying to make with your post. Those schools have 2 and almost 3 times the number of boys enrolled. If it were ALL about the numbers those teams should be steamrolling Mayfield every year...and they don't. The reverse is usually true.

 

You can't cherry pick one school here and there. We are talking about public schools in general. Enrollment does play a hugh factor overall.

You almost concede there is a problem.

 

No...maybe I should have said, IF there is a problem....

 

You're proposal to fix the "problem" doesn't fix it. It just moves it.

Well we know the current X & T have won 90% of the championships the last 22 years. We are only assuming that Male and Manual would ascend to the top. But they have more losses to public schools than X & T. Again the gap would be narrower then it is now. Didn’t 7th ID get disbanded..Thank you for your service.

 

Yep, in 1992 when they closed Ft Ord. Got rolled in with the 10th Mountain Division I think, not sure if there are any remnants left of it or not. I got out in 1988 before all that happened. And thanks, I appreciate that.

Want to take a guess at what Male's record is vs X?? How about 11 wins vs 14 losses the last 25 times they've played. They are 4-8 vs Trinity during the same time period. Not a winning record, but quite a ways from losing 8 out of every 10. I'd definitely say they win more than occasionally. Now in fairness, Manual hasn't been as competitive. But still, the arguments you've made don't quite hold up to the actual facts. I know what the perception is, but it's not quite reality.

 

The fact is public schools have a better chance beating Male & Manual year in and year out then they do beating X & T.

You can't cherry pick one school here and there. We are talking about public schools in general. Enrollment does play a hugh factor overall.

 

When it's 1A playing 6A? Sure I can, it's the most drastic enrollment difference and it shows if one public school can not only compete with but beat schools much larger than them, then 6A schools can do it against their in class competition. There are other example too, but that's the biggest and most obvious one.

T & X play by different rules financially and enrollment. Those two alone set them far above most public schools. Establish a Midwest private school region (1A-6A). Then the public school vs private school argument is mute. The rich love the status quo when it benefits them.

 

This will NEVER happen. As I said before, who runs and manages it?? How do you get the other schools to pull out of their state affiliation, and really why should they?? There is no precedent for this, and to my knowledge multi state athletic conference doesn't exist. Sure some state have separated publics and privates, but those states have many more schools.

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This will NEVER happen. As I said before, who runs and manages it?? How do you get the other schools to pull out of their state affiliation, and really why should they?? There is no precedent for this, and to my knowledge multi state athletic conference doesn't exist. Sure some state have separated publics and privates, but those states have many more school.

 

Other states have worked it out. The private schools are smart they would figure it out. Maybe it wont happen, but its a viable solution. All you raise is road blocks as your objection.

The fact is public schools have a better chance beating Male & Manual year in and year out then they do beating X & T.

 

OK....but the fact also is that Male competes with and beats X and T on a regular basis. You've stated that Male would lose 80% of the time. They don't.

Other states have worked it out.

 

They have? Could you elaborate more because I'm not aware of anything like a "mid west private school league" that you suggested, anywhere. I'd like to know more if one exists.

They have? Could you elaborate more because I'm not aware of anything like a "mid west private school league" that you suggested, anywhere. I'd like to know more if one exists.

 

I will get back to u on that one. I believe several states divide public and private.

Well we know the current X & T have won 90% of the championships the last 22 years. We are only assuming that Male and Manual would ascend to the top. But they have more losses to public schools than X & T. Again the gap would be narrower then it is now. Didn’t 7th ID get disbanded..Thank you for your service.

 

17 out of 22 is 77% actually.

OK....but the fact also is that Male competes with and beats X and T on a regular basis. You've stated that Male would lose 80% of the time. They don't.

 

How many state titles does Male and Manual have?

I will get back to u on that one. I believe several states divide public and private.

 

Several states do that, but that is a COMPLETELY different horse than having private schools from different states with their own league. Way different.

Other states have worked it out. The private schools are smart they would figure it out. Maybe it wont happen, but its a viable solution. All you raise is road blocks as your objection.

 

If you are part of the disgruntled party then why don't you and like minded disgruntled parties leave and form your own association?