He would not.

 

As Spin or someone said the old rule said once you were "promoted" from 8th grade you have 4 years. This would be the 5th.

 

The new rule starting next school year says you have 4 once you have STARTED 9th grade.

 

Yes, and you are considered STARTING the 9th grade as soon as you are promoted from the 8th!!

Reason I ask is that I heard that a kid currently in the 16th region finished his 8th grade year at one school and then repeated 8th grade at another school. I thought that in this case he would be ineligible his senior year. I was Wondering if sitting out a year in high school would make him eligible his senior year since he only played four seasons.

 

It would not.

Let's just let the rules be stated here instead of the ideas rolling around in our heads.

 

First this ain't college, you start the clock in the 9th grade you get 4 years and the only exemption is a medical hardship. See Lewis County guard Terrence Smith a few seasons ago when he had a terrible truck accident. And he still wasn't too old to meet the maximum age requirements. Those requirements can be found in bylaw 3

http://khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/20142015/bylaw3.pdf

 

Secondly, the age requirement is outlined in bylaw 2. Can't be 19 before Aug 1st of senior year to be eligible which should really hack off all of the daddies that get hung up on the holdback situation.

http://khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/20142015/bylaw2.pdf

 

So, maybe we can start there.

 

I see you have a problem with hold backs, what`s the big deal ? If it`s inside the age rule, and could help a kid, why not. A year is along time at that age, another year of work could help some get good enough to make it to a college.

To be straight, my question does not have anything to do with being held back by itself. That is solely a decision by the parents and as long as it is done within the rules it is fair. All parents have the option. My question is about the eligibility part of it. The way I understand things the athlete that was mentioned to me would not be eligible his senior year the way I interpret the current rules. I do not know the facts in the case just that the source was an educator within the school system where he plays which lends enough credibility in my mind to as the question.

I see you have a problem with hold backs, what`s the big deal ? If it`s inside the age rule, and could help a kid, why not. A year is along time at that age, another year of work could help some get good enough to make it to a college.

You were held back weren't you?

The question I have is, did he play 8th grade ball for two years in a row at two different middle schools?

You were held back weren't you?

 

Yes I was, and I don't see a thing wrong with it, an extra year of work, can really help. Most play to try and make it to the next level, if a 6 or 7th grader looks like they may have a chance, why not give them a extra year, to work. I`m all for doing anything, with in the rules , to give a kid a better chance of making it, it is so hard anyway ,and very few move on, so do what ever it may take.

Saw this happen a few years back. Two students from two different public middle schools were "promoted" from the 8th grade onto high school, but they never enrolled in high school & both ended up at a private school back in the 8th grade. Once this came to light, they were both ruled ineligible by the KHSAA for their senior year, BUT a legal battle ensued by one of the kids families & his was overturned. The other was granted the same eligibility after the fact. They both will be playing their senior year @ their respective schools this spring.

Yes I was, and I don't see a thing wrong with it, an extra year of work, can really help. Most play to try and make it to the next level, if a 6 or 7th grader looks like they may have a chance, why not give them a extra year, to work. I`m all for doing anything, with in the rules , to give a kid a better chance of making it, it is so hard anyway ,and very few move on, so do what ever it may take.

Yep, the benefits of the extra curriculum in grammar alone can really benefit kids. :thumb:

My understanding is you can pretty much repeat any middle school grade and retain 4 years of high school eligibility if you don't play high school basketball during that year you repeat the grade.

 

There are at least 2 kids I know of right now that spent 4 years in middle school and just didn't play HS ball during the year they repeated.

 

A good friend of mine went to Owensboro schools through 6th grade then transferred to Daviess County schools and took 6th grade again. He played at DCHS for all 4 years of high school.

My understanding is you can pretty much repeat any middle school grade and retain 4 years of high school eligibility if you don't play high school basketball during that year you repeat the grade.

 

There are at least 2 kids I know of right now that spent 4 years in middle school and just didn't play HS ball during the year they repeated.

 

A good friend of mine went to Owensboro schools through 6th grade then transferred to Daviess County schools and took 6th grade again. He played at DCHS for all 4 years of high school.

That's my understanding as well.

Yep, the benefits of the extra curriculum in grammar alone can really benefit kids. :thumb:

 

Classy, all you can come back with is to slam my grammar. As you always post " that's so classy " so stay classy spindoc. LOL

Classy, all you can come back with is to slam my grammar. As you always post " that's so classy " so stay classy spindoc. LOL

No really, I'm a huge proponent of kids getting all the time in high school to prepare them for the next chapter of their lives. I was held back to.

No really, I'm a huge proponent of kids getting all the time in high school to prepare them for the next chapter of their lives. I was held back to.

 

Come on Doc, you were held back because you failed the "swish" test and had too much blue stain left on your teeth. At least be honest.

Seems like some people are too emotional about this, and I know I'm drawing inferences here, but some seem to consider it "cheating" or "unfair" to hold a kid back. If the eligibility rules permit it, and you want your kid to succeed athletically to his fullest extent, then hold him back and quit complaining. It is within the rules, and the KHSAA has drawn the line. If you are not into maximizing your kid's athletic opportunities, let him graduate "earlier" than would be necessary under the rules. It happens all the time. I and my brother and three of my best friends all graduated extremely early, either through skipping grades or going to Covington Latin. Our parents made the completely voluntary decision to let us finish high school early, and that it was more important that we were challenged academically instead of athletically (and please don't think I am referring to guys that stayed inside and read and played the violin all day and were not athletic ... none of those I am referring to fit that stereotype, all were sports minded and good athletes). There is no question that we would have all had better high school athletic careers had we not graduated early. To some people, maximizing their kid's high school athletic experience is not that important; to others, it is. I have no problem with either approach. What bothers me is the hypocrisy of someone arguing that the high school athletic experience is NOT all that important to them, and then bemoaning the fact that someone holds their kid back and implies that it is dishonest or cheating. It isn't either one. And if it matters to you that much, maybe you fall into the category of wanting to maximize your kid's high school athletic experience, but you don't really want to admit it. I can appreciate that you may want to know how old the other kids are that your son or daughter is playing against to allow you to benchmark your child's development, but I don't believe its appropriate to cast aspersions or imply that those that have held a kid back have done anything improper. There are actually lots of reasons to hold your kids back for reasons other than athletics.... older kids become leaders more readily, are generally more confident, and I know that I and most people I know made less bad decisions at 19 than we did at 18, and we made less bad decisions at 20 than at 19, etc. Having an extra year under Mom and Dad's roof and rules is a good thing from where I sit, regardless of impact on their athletic careers....