This doesn't make sense to me. I went to a private school, so I never had to take these tests, but the idea of cancelling games seems ludicrous to me. My Senior year I had three AP classes, so I had a load of homework to do every night after the games. I May be wrong, but is there any way to study for these tests? It seems to me that games put more of a strain on a student athlete during any day other than the testing days.

I wonder what time the kids will be in bed tonight after the 4H banquet that lasts till 8:30pm. I believe I could get an entire baseball game in by 8pm if I start at 5pm. I don't get it, but people must be concerned about it because this thread is getting a lot of attention. I'm just glad that this is still America, and that I can say what I feel. Oh, and the umpires showed up yesterday, and I'm sure they will want to be paid.

You know 4-H is not a school club, right?

This doesn't make sense to me. I went to a private school, so I never had to take these tests, but the idea of cancelling games seems ludicrous to me. My Senior year I had three AP classes, so I had a load of homework to do every night after the games. I May be wrong, but is there any way to study for these tests? It seems to me that games put more of a strain on a student athlete during any day other than the testing days.

You have to understand one thing about testing....if a school does poorly enough, a team of "distinguished educators" from Frankfort comes and takes over your school. Everyone who has been involved in this, has said, you don't want this to happen.

 

Principals can very easily lose their jobs if their school does poorly on the test. Superintendents can very easily lose their jobs if the local BofEd is unhappy with the district's results.

Other schools seem to do fine on these tests, and they still play ball. Are there other problems that may need to be addressed?? I can see your point Ladiesbballcoach, but I just don't agree. I am far from perfect, and can admit if I am wrong, so what I say doesn't mean anything unless you make it mean something. Sorry to shake the school up, but it's just what I think. Nothing else.

As far as the 4-H thing, I'm sure there are students who will be present at the 4-H meeting. What is the difference? Also, we can practice during test week....The only difference in practice and games is the fact that the teams will have their uniforms on while playing. Practice will even go longer sometimes than a game will. I wouldn't do that, but they could.

Once again, just my opinion....I am not looking at it from the School Board side, and I am not a teacher, so it is possible that I am wrong. I just like to see the kids play ball.

As far as the 4-H thing, I'm sure there are students who will be present at the 4-H meeting. What is the difference? Also, we can practice during test week....The only difference in practice and games is the fact that the teams will have their uniforms on while playing. Practice will even go longer sometimes than a game will. I wouldn't do that, but they could.

School has no control of the 4-H meeting unless it is being held on school property. The school cannot cancel it.

 

Understand what you are saying, because I have been upset several times on not having the gymnasium for basketball practice because of a reason or the other.

 

But schools are schools first and places for athletics second.

Kids can't enjoy Spring Break for the "good" of the team, but Admin can deny the kids games over a testing period that NEVER overlaps a game. Interesting...

 

Do I understand that you're saying school sports is more important than CATS testing ?!?

 

Personally, I don't think any sort of practice or game should be allowed testing week NOR during Spring Break...

While games are fun and are a wonderful part of the high school experience I think testing should take presidence over a sporting event. Students should be taught to prepare for a test in much the same way they prepare for a game. Lots of rest, eat well, focus and put forth your best effort. How many coaches have curfew before a big game? During the week of basketball region tournament there were coaches who would not allow the boys to attend the girls games. They had to be home by 8:00. Testing is one week out of the school year, everyone knows the testing schedule when they are making out the baseball schedule, shouldn't be such a big deal. Coaches schedule around the all "A" tournament, why not schedule around testing as well? Testing well is more important than playing well IMHO.

I beleive that academics are more important. I also believe that sports are an important part of an education. If a school sees fit to cancel games because of testing, OK. But, I'd rather be on the ballfield rather than sitting at home playing video games or watching TV.

 

Seems to me that something could be worked out. BOE could let coaches know the exact dates of the CATS test so that games can be scheduled with teams that aren't so far away. That way, the team wouldn't be getting back at 11 PM. Just takes a little give and take.

What about prom's? Anybody forced to cancel a game or two because of a prom? :irked:

 

I had to play a Game on Prom.

 

Played @ Corbin at 12:30 and had to play the game, had to drive over an hour to get back home, and I couldn't take my date out to eat, so we ate at Wendy's. :lol:

I had to play a Game on Prom.

 

Played @ Corbin at 12:30 and had to play the game, had to drive over an hour to get back home, and I couldn't take my date out to eat, so we ate at Wendy's. :lol:

I think that's a sign of life. At that age, you could be upset that you had to eat at wendys. get married and eat your wife's cooking for a while and then wendy's will be a night on the town.....:dancingpa

I believe testing is important... and while I'm not sure the currents tests are the most effective way of measuring how a school is performing, there has to be some sort of way to measure the performance of the academic cirriculum and teachers at a school. While I think the current tests are... a load of huey, I'm not sure what the right way would be to determine if a school is "up to par" or is performing academically.

 

All that being said, I have a lot of experience taking tests.... seven years of higher education on top of the 8 years on the academic team while in elementary, middle and high school tends to give one way too much experience with tests. hahah. I don't think a ballgame will really impact a student's performance. In all honesty, "cramming" and tyring to over prepare tends to make students more nervous and stressed and can actually lead to lower scores. Perhaps if testing days were treated as "normal" as possible, students could perform optimally. This is not to say that students should stay out all night, whatever, but I do think that permitting a game or two during testing week could help. But ... what do I know? Just my two cents.

I believe testing is important... and while I'm not sure the currents tests are the most effective way of measuring how a school is performing, there has to be some sort of way to measure the performance of the academic cirriculum and teachers at a school. While I think the current tests are... a load of huey, I'm not sure what the right way would be to determine if a school is "up to par" or is performing academically.

 

All that being said, I have a lot of experience taking tests.... seven years of higher education on top of the 8 years on the academic team while in elementary, middle and high school tends to give one way too much experience with tests. hahah. I don't think a ballgame will really impact a student's performance. In all honesty, "cramming" and tyring to over prepare tends to make students more nervous and stressed and can actually lead to lower scores. Perhaps if testing days were treated as "normal" as possible, students could perform optimally. This is not to say that students should stay out all night, whatever, but I do think that permitting a game or two during testing week could help. But ... what do I know? Just my two cents.

Your second paragraph is what I tried to say in my # 24 and 28 posts, but you said it much better.

I believe testing is important... and while I'm not sure the currents tests are the most effective way of measuring how a school is performing, there has to be some sort of way to measure the performance of the academic cirriculum and teachers at a school. While I think the current tests are... a load of huey, I'm not sure what the right way would be to determine if a school is "up to par" or is performing academically.

 

All that being said, I have a lot of experience taking tests.... seven years of higher education on top of the 8 years on the academic team while in elementary, middle and high school tends to give one way too much experience with tests. hahah. I don't think a ballgame will really impact a student's performance. In all honesty, "cramming" and tyring to over prepare tends to make students more nervous and stressed and can actually lead to lower scores. Perhaps if testing days were treated as "normal" as possible, students could perform optimally. This is not to say that students should stay out all night, whatever, but I do think that permitting a game or two during testing week could help. But ... what do I know? Just my two cents.

 

I agree with most of what you have stated. I take it you were both a high achiever and student athlete. You were probable more than capable of manageing your time due to your desire to achieve. Unfortantly there are those students and parents who don't share the same desires. I agree that games could be played during testing week but try to keep travel times to a minimum. Without this encouragement some might schedule several away games with extended travel times. You would have to admit traveling on a bus from Lee Co to let's say Letcher Co Central would leave players a bit weary.