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Kentucky Backs Out of Game vs. UTEP

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I don't know the percentage, but I believe you are right in that it was much higher than most would like to believe. Kentucky was one of the first major schools to integrate.

 

In 1969? I think it was more like they jumped on the bandwagon at the same time as the rest of the southern schools.

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I don't know the percentage, but I believe you are right in that it was much higher than most would like to believe. Kentucky was one of the first major schools to integrate.

 

If you are talking about basketball (a reasonable assumption given the thread), you are wildly incorrect. 1970 would in no way make UK "one of the first major schools to integrate." If you are talking about athletes or students generally, please make that clear.

 

The Integration of UK Basketball in the 1960's - A Sea Of Blue

 

http://www.sportsinblackandwhite.com/2012/10/21/integration-on-the-court-college-basketball-in-the-south/

A - whether they agreed OR simply discussed matters little to me. Whatever the facts, it should be reported accurately.

 

B - whether they can "fit them in the schedule" or can "afford to take the financial hit" by playing that game - as OchoCinco would say "Child, Please!"

 

C - is it a good idea? To me, yes. Face the demons of your past, embrace the progress you have made and correct those that characterize it incorrectly. Avoiding it is weak.

 

D - In reading this thread, there are posts with a stinking undertone of racism. It is disappointing and uncomfortable to read.

A - whether they agreed OR simply discussed matters little to me. Whatever the facts, it should be reported accurately.

 

B - whether they can "fit them in the schedule" or can "afford to take the financial hit" by playing that game - as OchoCinco would say "Child, Please!"

 

C - is it a good idea? To me, yes. Face the demons of your past, embrace the progress you have made and correct those that characterize it incorrectly. Avoiding it is weak.

 

D - In reading this thread, there are posts with a stinking undertone of racism. It is disappointing and uncomfortable to read.

 

 

Who has said anything remotely racist ?

 

UK makes 700k in revenue per home game. So they should throw that away ? Simple solution UTEP comes plays at Rupp. Calapari has been consistent on non conference road games. A perfect example would be the Indiana series.

If you are talking about basketball (a reasonable assumption given the thread), you are wildly incorrect. 1970 would in no way make UK "one of the first major schools to integrate." If you are talking about athletes or students generally, please make that clear.

 

The Integration of UK Basketball in the 1960's - A Sea Of Blue

 

http://www.sportsinblackandwhite.com/2012/10/21/integration-on-the-court-college-basketball-in-the-south/

 

He's clearly talking about basketball. That's clear from the whole topic of the thread.

A - whether they agreed OR simply discussed matters little to me. Whatever the facts, it should be reported accurately.

 

B - whether they can "fit them in the schedule" or can "afford to take the financial hit" by playing that game - as OchoCinco would say "Child, Please!"

 

C - is it a good idea? To me, yes. Face the demons of your past, embrace the progress you have made and correct those that characterize it incorrectly. Avoiding it is weak.

 

D - In reading this thread, there are posts with a stinking undertone of racism. It is disappointing and uncomfortable to read.

 

No one has said anything even remotely racist. Sounds like you're digging for something that's not there.

 

C - is it a good idea? To me, yes. Face the demons of your past, embrace the progress you have made and correct those that characterize it incorrectly. Avoiding it is weak.

 

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How is it facing "the demons of your past?" Assuming the demons are in regards to not allowing black players that's been addressed for 40+ years now.

 

What is the gain from having this game that we haven't already realized?

 

If you are talking about basketball (a reasonable assumption given the thread), you are wildly incorrect. 1970 would in no way make UK "one of the first major schools to integrate." If you are talking about athletes or students generally, please make that clear.

 

The Integration of UK Basketball in the 1960's - A Sea Of Blue

 

http://www.sportsinblackandwhite.com/2012/10/21/integration-on-the-court-college-basketball-in-the-south/

 

 

I was talking about basketball. For some reason I was under the impression that UK recruited and signed a kid the year following the Texas Western game. He was ultimitely charged with rape and kicked off the team. Then I believe some time passed before they tried to integrate again.

 

Again, I could be completely wrong, as I don't see any of that mentioned in the article you linked. I also see that there were some schools that integrated back in the 50's, however none of those were in the south.

I was talking about basketball. For some reason I was under the impression that UK recruited and signed a kid the year following the Texas Western game. He was ultimitely charged with rape and kicked off the team. Then I believe some time passed before they tried to integrate again.

 

Again, I could be completely wrong, as I don't see any of that mentioned in the article you linked. I also see that there were some schools that integrated back in the 50's, however none of those were in the south.

 

You might be thinking of Tom Payne. Played at Shawnee High School in Louisville and came to UK in 1969-70. He did get into trouble and was charged with rape and left after his sophomore season (remember, couldn't play as a freshman back then) to go to the NBA under the old hardship rule. Sadly, he is currently in prison.

A - whether they agreed OR simply discussed matters little to me. Whatever the facts, it should be reported accurately.

 

B - whether they can "fit them in the schedule" or can "afford to take the financial hit" by playing that game - as OchoCinco would say "Child, Please!"

 

C - is it a good idea? To me, yes. Face the demons of your past, embrace the progress you have made and correct those that characterize it incorrectly. Avoiding it is weak.

 

D - In reading this thread, there are posts with a stinking undertone of racism. It is disappointing and uncomfortable to read.

 

 

To me it sounds like you have an agenda. Why, I have no idea?

 

Kentucky's administration has already said they would be open to scheduling the game in the future, as long as it is a home game. Financially that would be the best option for both schools, as UTEP would no doubt be compensated nicely, just like every other ooc team that comes to play at Rupp is.

 

But for some reason that doesn't work for you, you want the game to be on UTEP's terms and conditions. Guess what, it doesn't work that way when negotiating with any of the blue bloods of college basketball. I won't even get in to the racial undertones or who you suggest is being that way, because your definitely reaching there.

 

You might be thinking of Tom Payne. Played at Shawnee High School in Louisville and came to UK in 1969-70. He did get into trouble and was charged with rape and left after his sophomore season (remember, couldn't play as a freshman back then) to go to the NBA under the old hardship rule. Sadly, he is currently in prison.

 

That's who I was thinking of. I was wrong about the time frame though. I was under the impression he was recruited earlier than that.

That's who I was thinking of. I was wrong about the time frame though. I was under the impression he was recruited earlier than that.

 

Rupp had recruited Butch Beard from Breckinridge County very hard but had lost out to Louisville. Beard was a freshman in 1966.

 

Rupp had recruited Butch Beard from Breckinridge County very hard but had lost out to Louisville. Beard was a freshman in 1966.

 

I did read up on Beard, he was a great player. Too bad Rupp couldn't get him. Maybe then we wouldn't be the evil racist empire to some.

I'm a little lost on where the posts with a racist undertone are in this thread as well.

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