I'd argue life's too short to care that much about something as pointless as music. If it has a good beat/tune, or I like the lyrics, I'll listen. Regardless of genre.

 

I agree 100% .

If music is pointless, then why does it accompany so many important things in life? There's music in church, national anthems, state songs, school fight songs...music accompanies theaters, film and television...they play music at inaugurations, funerals, weddings...

 

Seems like a LOT of people have MAJOR uses for something you'd call "pointless"

 

Is that supposed to change my opinion?

 

Music is just there. If I hear something I find catchy, I'll listen to it. I won't sit there and think, well this is crap because it's written by 9 different people or is formulaic, or because it's country-pop, etc. Why waste the time and energy worrying about stupid stuff like that, and not just enjoy what you like as it is?

I love to hear rap and country fans argue.

 

Country (per rap fans): It all revolves around wives leaving, dogs dying, pick up trucks, etc.

 

Rap (per country fans): It all revolves around partying at the club, large rear ends, pimping or scoring with multiple women, how rich they are, etc. but all seems to involve how self obsessed the artist (use the term loosely according to country fans) is with himself - Kanye being the epitome of this.

 

I tend to think both rap and country both could add some diveristy to the topics of their music in my opinion. That is one thing I do recognize with Eminem, much of his music is telling a story about something unique to much of the rest of rap music.

 

Now I'll say this, the thread was started around pop country, which has that formulaic problem because it's as controlled by major media companies as every other style of popular music.

 

There's great country out there. There's great rap out there. There's great rock music out there.

 

The big problem we face in finding it is that pop music is designed to appeal to the greatest number of people possible on any level. That usually ends up being a pretty basic level and it's how we end up with the types of stuff we see in that original video.

Is that supposed to change my opinion?

 

Music is just there. If I hear something I find catchy, I'll listen to it. I won't sit there and think, well this is crap because it's written by 9 different people or is formulaic, or because it's country-pop, etc. Why waste the time and energy worrying about stupid stuff like that, and not just enjoy what you like as it is?

 

I was just speaking more to your assertion that music is pointless than what you do or don't tap your toe to.

Is that supposed to change my opinion?

 

Music is just there. If I hear something I find catchy, I'll listen to it. I won't sit there and think, well this is crap because it's written by 9 different people or is formulaic, or because it's country-pop, etc. Why waste the time and energy worrying about stupid stuff like that, and not just enjoy what you like as it is?

 

I enjoy music. I spend a lot of time listening to it. I enjoy finding new things I like. I like playing it loud through good speakers. To each their own.

Sometimes yes, but not necessarily. I just Google searched Britney Spears' latest album, and you need only look on the Wikipedia track listing to see how many people it took to write a single one of her songs. It looks like there were some tracks that had as many as 9 people contributing to the writing.

 

Britney Jean - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

I have often wondered, when it comes to writing music, do lyrics come before the instrumental music? I have assumed that but not sure.

I have often wondered, when it comes to writing music, do lyrics come before the instrumental music? I have assumed that but not sure.

 

Completely depends on the writer. Bob Dylan almost exclusively writes lyrics and then puts music to them. I read an interview with James Hetfield (Metallica) once, though, where he said he's lucky if he even has lyrics finished for all of his instrumentation before he walks into the studio.

Is that supposed to change my opinion?

 

Music is just there. If I hear something I find catchy, I'll listen to it. I won't sit there and think, well this is crap because it's written by 9 different people or is formulaic, or because it's country-pop, etc. Why waste the time and energy worrying about stupid stuff like that, and not just enjoy what you like as it is?

In some things you have no soul. :lol2:

Dumb question but bear with me. In factory type music (which much modern country is) is the same person who write the lyrics also write the instrumental music?

 

I don't think so. I think in pop-country people sit around and write mostly lyrics all day, then they are shipped off to a studio to arrange the music around them. I think it goes the other way in straight-ahead pop where a producer can create a bunch of different songs electronically, then lyrics get laid over top (the link in post #9 elaborates).

These are not real country songs .... after all they have nothing about...

 

"momma,

or trains,

or trucks,

or prison,

or gittin drunk..."

 

Right. But the people I'm talking about argue that all country songs don't sound the same. :lol2:

 

They all have a banjo.

Somebody's dog/truck dies.

They're either in love, or drinking away their sorrows.

 

:lol2: You don't have to call me darlin', darlin'....you forgot Mama and trains

In some things you have no soul. :lol2:

 

:lol2: A little harsh over my opinion of music, don't ya think? :lol2: :thumb:

I showed this to my 17 year old niece and her mom last night. The look on their faces was priceless.

 

 

I have often wondered, when it comes to writing music, do lyrics come before the instrumental music? I have assumed that but not sure.

 

A guy who roomed next to me at Morehead, wrote a poem that he submitted to an agent in Nashville his senior year. They made into a country song. It was a minor hit in the late 70s. For the life of me, I can't remember the name of it, though.