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Cleveland PD Shoots and Kills 12-Year-Old

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That just means one person caused the death of another person.

 

You can kill someone legally, it's still a homicide.

 

My point is...this means nothing.

 

I just posted it because I saw it on Twitter... Wasn't implying it meant something.

 

I just posted it because I saw it on Twitter... Wasn't implying it meant something.

 

Ok.

A municipal judge in Cleveland said he found probable cause to charge the officer with murder.

 

Judge is acting only in an advisory role and the county prosecutor has said the case will still go before a grand jury.

 

Judge Backs Charges Against Cleveland Officers in Killing of Tamir Rice - NBC News

 

Why would a judge say anything at all if it is going to a grand jury. Trying to influence the grand jury?

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Why would a judge say anything at all if it is going to a grand jury. Trying to influence the grand jury?

 

No. He had to from what I gather. There is a law (maybe mentioned in the link) that was used to get in front of this judge if I remember correctly.

No. He had to from what I gather. There is a law (maybe mentioned in the link) that was used to get in front of this judge if I remember correctly.

 

The judge could be 100% right. I'm just not grasping the point of it. Can the judge compel the prosecutor to prosecute ?

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The judge could be 100% right. I'm just not grasping the point of it. Can the judge compel the prosecutor to prosecute ?

 

No.

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So the process was meaningless?

 

Good question.

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Cleveland PD now admits the officer should never have been hired. Supervisors have been disciplined.

Cleveland PD now admits the officer should never have been hired. Supervisors have been disciplined.

 

Due to him being found unfit for police duty back in 2012 like I posted about back in December?

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Due to him being found unfit for police duty back in 2012 like I posted about back in December?

 

 

Correct

Police shooting of Tamir Rice 'reasonable,' experts say - CNN.com

 

(CNN)The police shooting death of a 12-year-old Cleveland boy with a pellet gun was reasonable, two experts say in reports prepared for the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor.

 

Tamir Rice was killed by an officer in training outside a Cleveland recreation center in November 2014. The shooting sparked controversy given Tamir's age and the fact that he had a gun that resembled a handgun but fired pellets.

 

It also came as the nation reeled from police-involved shootings of unarmed African-American men. Tamir was black.

 

Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy J. McGinty said a grand jury will decide whether Officer Timothy Loehmann and his partner, Frank Garmback, will face charges.

 

The two reports, as well as a third one by the Highway Patrol, were posted on the prosecutor's website Saturday night.

 

"These cases are, by their very nature, different than other matters that come to our office," McGinty said in a written statement. "They demand a higher level of public scrutiny as well as a careful evaluation of the officer's conduct and whether, under law, those actions were reasonable under the circumstances."

 

Read the reports: Report by Colorado prosecutor | Report by former FBI agent | Highway Patrol report

 

S. Lamar Sims, the senior chief deputy district attorney in Denver, wrote one of the reports and concludes Loehmann's decision to shoot Rice as he approached the officers was "objectively reasonable"

 

Looks like the independent findings came from a Denver Prosecutor and one from an FBI agent.

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