Clyde Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I disagree, an air horn is very specific and a rule shouldn't be so vague in a case like this. The rule could give the obvious examples of an air horn and a cow bell as part of an included but not limited to clause. In the reading I did online it seems a few states have been very specific in their wording. Air horns banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Don Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I agree. It is not specific. However, as with most laws/rules, the intent of the rule is clear and I would say it is a violation to use "mechanical noisemakers". Sending up the Bat Signal for leatherneck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 This is from the same handbook in the Basketball Competition Rules: C) Music/Sound Effects/Artificial Noisemakers 1) Per NFHS Rule 1-18, the playing of music/sound effects shall only be permitted during the pregame, time-outs, intermission and postgame. The use of artificial noisemakers shall be prohibited, to include but not be limited to any mechanical device manufactured to create noise and multiple objects which together make noise. Such prohibition shall include the use of equipment such as megaphones when used by anyone of than a cheerleader and for any other purpose than voice amplification. 2) Megaphones are allowed to be used by cheerleaders as long as they are used in the traditional sense. Megaphones are not to be used to bang against the floor or wall to incite crowds or intimidate players. Megaphones may not be used by fans as noisemakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedad Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 In another thread Hardin County Preps posted the following: I am a passionate fan for the game of football and am trying to bring some spirit and passion to the Central Hardin fan base but recently had a negative experience. I attended the Meade/ Central Game and used an airhorn to try and get this fan base motivated. While I beleive this is a harmless way to incite the fan base, I was told by school personnel that it was a violation of KHSAA rules to use it. I have used this airhorn for years at John Hardin games without any incident. I have been unable to find any guidance on this matter on the KHSAA website and was wondering if somebody had some guidance on this matter It should be - as should the ridiculous bullhorn complete with sirens etc that the Beechwood student have started to use. I say started, because I honestly don't remember hearing this last year or year prior. Go old school with the big megaphones or nothing else. The electronic and mechanical noisemakers shouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It is, any artificial noise maker is banned during gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 This is from the same handbook in the Basketball Competition Rules: C) Music/Sound Effects/Artificial Noisemakers 1) Per NFHS Rule 1-18, the playing of music/sound effects shall only be permitted during the pregame, time-outs, intermission and postgame. The use of artificial noisemakers shall be prohibited, to include but not be limited to any mechanical device manufactured to create noise and multiple objects which together make noise. Such prohibition shall include the use of equipment such as megaphones when used by anyone of than a cheerleader and for any other purpose than voice amplification. 2) Megaphones are allowed to be used by cheerleaders as long as they are used in the traditional sense. Megaphones are not to be used to bang against the floor or wall to incite crowds or intimidate players. Megaphones may not be used by fans as noisemakers. Is there a typo in that? And is specifically talks about fans and the other doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 It is, any artificial noise maker is banned during gameplay. I am not trying to be a jerk but prove it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk#1fan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think it all depends on the school. Some schools announce they are not allowed before the game. Other schools don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk#1fan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I am sure you will get yelled at if you blow it during a play. I don't think they care after a big play or touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think it all depends on the school. Some schools announce they are not allowed before the game. Other schools don't care. I think individual schools have a right to ban them but in this case the KHSAA was cited as the reason why and that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I disagree, an air horn is very specific and a rule shouldn't be so vague in a case like this. The rule could give the obvious examples of an air horn and a cow bell as part of an included but not limited to clause. I agree that the rule should be specific - but it isn't. So how do we interpret the rule as written? In the law in the absence of specificity, judges look to the intent of the law when written. I think it is clear what the intent is. They don't want artificial noise interfering with play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Is there a typo in that? And is specifically talks about fans and the other doesn't. Yes there is a typo. I believe "of" should read "other". I copied it directly from the handbook as written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss403 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I am sure you will get yelled at if you blow it during a play. I don't think they care after a big play or touchdown. At JH, the fans only blow the airhorns after we have scored a TD. I don't believe I have ever heard them during any other time during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy41017 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It was air horns that drove Beechwood to it's first title! Just saying. Some people just want to complain about anything and everything. The person should now bring two air horns and use them at the same time. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNCM Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think individual schools have a right to ban them but in this case the KHSAA was cited as the reason why and that is the question. I am sure the KHSAA left it intentionally vague and up to the discretion of the individual schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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