I didn't expect to get so quickly examples like this, if at all, but that is indeed interesting.

 

I've no way of knowing, but I tend to believe gay hunters are a rarity as most gay dudes I've ever known from the extreme feminine types to the extreme masculine, I typically hear from them that they just can't kill anything.

 

Again, I would've never imagined that an example such as yours would've come back so quickly. I'm guessing both of those guys were raised solidly with the tradition, where it's very much apart of them and their upbringing no matter what they've discovered about themselves along the way regarding sexual preference.

 

If it's more common then I'm even aware then that'll certainly debunk the theory of mine that gay guys just don't have it in them.

 

According to his brothers, Chris has hunted all over the world. Carl, I don't know that much about his hunting habits, other than he comes up every year for a week to hunt. At least he use too. I haven't talked to them in a few years. The whole family hunts the 1st week of gun season though.

Obviously my smart aleck nature made me knee-jerkingly begin my involvement in this thread with snide remarks, but I certainly have no right to, and especially if it just within the nature of man to hunt.

Perhaps you should just chalk it up to things you don't understands and then try to accept it and not pick at it.

 

We all have to do that from time to time, no?

Seriously, the video was awesome to see that young man's excitement at fulfilling his dream. I would feel the same way if it were a video of a kid hitting a winning shot, or meeting a sports hero, etc. Anything that makes a kid that happy, I have to smile.

I would wonder if there is more a correlation that openly gay people would tend towards an urban environment while closeted ones would remain integrated into a rural culture. Thus rendering statistical evaluation inconsequential as the data set is not objectively obtainable. And, the closeted gays in the rural culture would not want to openly oppose hunting as this would blow their cover.

 

My premise is that people in an urban environment are less likely to be drawn to hunting.

 

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Wouldn't ALL people in urban environments be less likely to be drawn to hunting than rural folks? I don't think it matters who they like to sleep with.

Perhaps you should just chalk it up to things you don't understands and then try to accept it and not pick at it.

 

We all have to do that from time to time, no?

 

True dat...

 

I've been pondering this since seeing the video, and no doubt people come from different places and can have completely different ideas about what it exciting and wonderful.

 

It certainly made the kid happy, but I've no doubt that from day one of his life he's been fine tuned to learn catch phrases and taught to understand what is awesome, where nothing could possibly make him see it as anything but awesome.

 

A kid not raised under the same circumstances would likely not see it as so great or at least not have a similar reaction.

 

Hitting a winning shot in basketball I do understand, as I also don't have the additional thoughts running through my mind about it that something died in the process.

 

Admittedly, It's foreign to me and difficult for me to understand, but I've been trying to. I've read through all the comments on youtube where there's a unanimous approval and excitement about what is displayed, while in my mind I know that I'm in the minority of that microcosm, and perplexed by the excited reactions. I'm guessing that each commenter was raised solid in the tradition as well, and it's right in their pockets of what is fantastic and awesome.

 

The deer (as well as other game) for some reason has been considered the accepted target for hunters and a tradition passed from generation to generation.

 

Dogs in other countries end up on the dinner tables whereas I'm guessing that in the U.S. hunters might categorize that as a no no, since with most here, dogs are considered man's best friend. Just wondering if these same deer hunters saw videos of others taking pleasure in the thrill of the kill of dogs if they'd share the same excitement about it?

 

I'm not a vegetarian, although as a small child my parents did have trouble getting me to eat meat because at a very young age my initial gut reaction was that it was gross and disturbing to me to eat it.

 

Being fine tuned by my parents that once I did, I was truly going to step up and finally understand that it was what I should eat.

 

Not having in my young mind very much option to decide differently, I bought into the idea that that's what I needed to do.

 

I continued on taking my chances with it and developed a taste for it that was not naturally apart of my makeup, but learned to tolerate it even to the point of liking some of it a lot.

 

Still today, I'll have meat, but sometimes I'll still at times plan a meal that has no meat in it whatsoever, because at times I just flat out don't feel it to be what will do the trick for my hunger.

 

One other thing about meat is that in general the processing of meat I don't believe is done as a sport in general for the masses to consume, whereas this discussion is about the actual sport of hunting, and understanding the thrill of it or what makes it thrilling for some.

 

With me being in the position that for various reasons some don't quite understand me, or might feel me to be odd man out, I do what I can to put myself in the shoes of those that I don't completely get.

 

No matter what minority of thought that I am in, I'm still individualistic enough to feel content in having my own set of perceptions and not feel pressured by the majority to alter them.

 

When I just can't wrap my mind around certain stuff, I'll for the sake of trying to see it another way, will explore the thought just to self reflect to see if I'm at all capable of budging from where I sit.

 

With this matter, it's a true and widespread fact that many are excited about it, and no matter what my nature leans towards, nothing I say or do will change it and I'd be a fool for trying. I have to accept it as a norm, while I'm thankful that I'm free to bypass any involvement with it.

 

I have to write it off as "To each their own" and find my own understanding that ultimately it isn't messing with my personal freedoms, so who am I to try to stop it and why would I think that I should?

 

In the real world I don't think that I've ever really had this conversation with a hunter, and there's no doubt that this medium gives me an opportunity to speak my peace without interruption hiding behind my keyboard, as real life could prove a more risky complicated encumbered process that stands the chance for undesirable outcomes.

 

With any topic, it's at least a refreshing change from real life to at least be able to air out certain thoughts without feeling the threat of escalating results, and in many ways perhaps give people from both ends of the spectrum to at least see things from different points of view whether or not they agree, whereas traditional discourse often doesn't aid in a smooth game of opinion volleyball.

 

I find it somehow enlightening to be able to at least entertain multiple forms of thought to evaluate and reevaluate from time to time my thoughts on things and it's entirely possible that I can learn or grow from where I am.

 

In this matter I think somehow I have by seeing it for what it is, and having to accept that although it's not my cup of tea, it most certainly is many others and I have to learn to understand that.

Do you think the kid was genuinely happy? In other words, was it true emotion by him or was he pretending to be happy?

I would wonder if there is more a correlation that openly gay people would tend towards an urban environment while closeted ones would remain integrated into a rural culture. Thus rendering statistical evaluation inconsequential as the data set is not objectively obtainable. And, the closeted gays in the rural culture would not want to openly oppose hunting as this would blow their cover.

 

My premise is that people in an urban environment are less likely to be drawn to hunting.

 

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I dig your analysis as it falls under the umbrella of thinking objectively and rationally.

Sexual orientation has absolutely no bearing on whether you are a hunter or not. I find it ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.

This thread took an interesting turn.

Do you think the kid was genuinely happy? In other words, was it true emotion by him or was he pretending to be happy?

 

Good question. I was pondering that myself.

 

At first I was wondering if his initial reaction was of sadness of the realization that he just killed something, but then it seemed to turn into a sort of tears of joy and excitement for having accomplished what he had obviously been dreaming about since being schooled from early on that this would be his goal, and then the positive reinforcement from the father would suggest that the father has inch by inch reinforced the goal for early on in the kids life, where the kid now feels like he's reached that goal of being what he's been taught is awesome, and he's happy to please his father and fulfill his programmed fantasy, and possibly knows that he can talk to his friends about what he's done and feel special amongst them as well as all of his father's buddies. The kid has arrived and is quickly becoming a "man" by the standards of this father and his friends within the world that he was raised.

Sexual orientation has absolutely no bearing on whether you are a hunter or not. I find it ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.

 

Wonder if there are any stats on it?

Sexual orientation has absolutely no bearing on whether you are a hunter or not. I find it ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.

 

I just am proposing the question and suggesting it because of my exposure to what I've seen by a high percentage of gay people I've known and their gut feeling towards it and how they can't bring themselves to kill anything, and to bring that further into the light of how my partner and his nephew (both gay) were both raised in the Northwoods of Wisconsin where they grew up with it in a big way and were celebrated for doing so, but they're the two (or 3 counting his more passive brother) from the family that ultimately couldn't bring themselves to do it no matter how much they were brought up with it.

 

From where I stand suggesting it is far from ridiculous, but while doing so I'm not trying to put a broad brush stroke on it, but suggest that it's that way in the instinctive nature of most gay men more times than not.

I know a lot of straight men who can't bring themselves to kill anything as well. What about women who hunt? Should I assume that they are gay since hunting is predominantly a man's sport? Seems pretty stereotypical to me. Just sayin'

Who cares? The kid waxed an absolute monster and made a memory of a lifetime with his dad. Priceless!!