This thread took an interesting turn.

 

Sure has, what else would you expect from the likes of me?

 

What an unusual and perhaps not welcome addition to this site to have someone like me swoop down on many topics where like minded folks often echo and reinforce each other's thoughts, and then all of the sudden find themselves being challenged to think beyond their normal ideas whether or not it alters them or not, but to now have the discussion take an interesting turn attempting to stretch it a bit further than their typical comfort zone that could ultimately have all involved exercise their power to think beyond what they've normally been challenged to. If it proves too much for some, they're perfectly free to disregard it. For those who's minds have been triggered one way or another, it's an opportunity for many of us, myself included, to learn something new.

I think you overvalue your contributions to this thread My feelings and thinking hasn't been challenged yet, but I have been entertained.

 

You did post a long response but never answered my question earlier. Do you think the kid's emotions are genuine or was he faking excitement? It is a simple question. (regardless of how he has been influenced, or what his reasons are)

I think you overvalue your contributions to this thread My feelings and thinking hasn't been challenged yet, but I have been entertained.

You did post a long response but never answered my question earlier. Do you think the kid's emotions are genuine or was he faking excitement? It is a simple question. (regardless of how he has been influenced, or what his reasons are)

 

 

Can I get an amen to that!

I know a lot of straight men who can't bring themselves to kill anything as well. What about women who hunt? Should I assume that they are gay since hunting is predominantly a man's sport? Seems pretty stereotypical to me. Just sayin'

 

In my initial reflection on this topic in my first LOOOOOONNNNGGGG post, I hinted at entertaining that thought that you're entertaining here, by saying that perhaps some straight men perhaps can't, and some gay men can.

 

I'll assume with no knowledge, that I've spoken to more gay men and have a closer understanding of similarities in their gut feelings towards this topic than most here, so my observation that many of us (gay men) just naturally have a feeling of adversity towards hunting (even being raised with the tradition) more so than straight men is not at all far fetched, while it may sound stereotypical, it proves more than not to be just a truth that isn't often dissected as much as we have done so here, so the territory of the topic hasn't regularly been entertained. I'm not suggesting to have any solid statistics on the matter, but just from my own observation, my unofficial data can stand to reason that what I'm suggesting here is not to far off the mark.

Who cares? The kid waxed an absolute monster and made a memory of a lifetime with his dad. Priceless!!

 

I do. I'm trying to comprehend how what he did is considered by so many as thrilling, and trying to analyze the difference between those who do, and those who don't, and the factors involved that create either reaction.

I do. I'm trying to comprehend how what he did is considered by so many as thrilling, and trying to analyze the difference between those who do, and those who don't, and the factors involved that create either reaction.

Send in for a grant. Great case study. As for this kid and his dad, what a moment.

I do. I'm trying to comprehend how what he did is considered by so many as thrilling, and trying to analyze the difference between those who do, and those who don't, and the factors involved that create either reaction.

Some people like strawberries, some don't. Some people enjoy reading novels, others don't. Such is life, we are all different. I don't know that an affinity for hunting is going to be a dividing line.

 

I love to hunt, but I wasn't born that way. My daddy didn't hunt, but when I was a teenager I took it upon myself to pursue it. I enjoy lots of things about it, not just the "killing" that comes at the end. Whether I am straight, gay or like to screw piglets has nothing to do with it. The two activities are mutually exclusive.

I do. I'm trying to comprehend how what he did is considered by so many as thrilling, and trying to analyze the difference between those who do, and those who don't, and the factors involved that create either reaction.

 

My husband has 2 sons. He has taken both hunting. One loves it; one doesn't. Raised in the same environment. One is more of a sports nut; the other is the brain child. Different strokes is all that it boils down to.

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I do. I'm trying to comprehend how what he did is considered by so many as thrilling, and trying to analyze the difference between those who do, and those who don't, and the factors involved that create either reaction.

 

I think hunting, generally, is an interest/hobby just as any other sport. My wife couldn't be less interested in high school football, whereas it is one of my absolute favorite sports on the planet. Similarly, a lot of my friends really enjoy hockey, whereas hockey is almost completely a bore in my eyes.

 

Additionally, hunting - particularly bowhunting - required practice, just as any other sport. Fighting nerves and adrenalin to get a nice, calm, accurate shot on a deer takes practice and discipline. You also have to study and scout deer trails, tree-stand location, wind and weather conditions, and then you need to train yourself to blend into all of those conditions quietly, motionlessly, and unnoticed for hours and sometimes days on end - enough so that an incredibly keen and perceptive animal will unknowingly walk within 50 feet of you without even realizing it. This kid has worked at all of those things, put in his practice and research, and ended up getting a great shot on a great looking deer.

 

It's thrilling for pretty much anyone when a whole lot of work pays off. I don't understand what all the excitement is in Nascar racing because it doesn't interest me, but I know a lot of people have to work long and hard to win one of those races, and I can certainly understand why they would be thrilled to do so. Same goes for hunting.

My husband has 2 sons. He has taken both hunting. One loves it; one doesn't. Raised in the same environment. One is more of a sports nut; the other is the brain child. Different strokes is all that it boils down to.

 

Don't think I'm claiming it to be as scientific as it might sound like I am, or suggesting that all straight men hunt, but I find it interesting that it appears that most gay men by nature are adverse to it, even though there are likely some who are not. I'm not talking about perhaps some gay men who've through some sort of experimentation in their lives now identifies with being gay, I'm referring mostly to gay guys who've known their whole lives that they were gay.

 

It might boil down to a lot of different factors so I'm not even saying that what I've suggested is the only factor. Without actually including everything at play, initially I was more focused on the difference between true heterosexual men and their nature, and true homosexual men and their nature knowing full good and well that you can still have every and many examples in between.

Some people like strawberries, some don't. Some people enjoy reading novels, others don't. Such is life, we are all different. I don't know that an affinity for hunting is going to be a dividing line.

 

I love to hunt, but I wasn't born that way. My daddy didn't hunt, but when I was a teenager I took it upon myself to pursue it. I enjoy lots of things about it, not just the "killing" that comes at the end. Whether I am straight, gay or like to screw piglets has nothing to do with it. The two activities are mutually exclusive.

 

Some people like to kill, some don't.

I think hunting, generally, is an interest/hobby just as any other sport. My wife couldn't be less interested in high school football, whereas it is one of my absolute favorite sports on the planet. Similarly, a lot of my friends really enjoy hockey, whereas hockey is almost completely a bore in my eyes.

 

Additionally, hunting - particularly bowhunting - required practice, just as any other sport. Fighting nerves and adrenalin to get a nice, calm, accurate shot on a deer takes practice and discipline. You also have to study and scout deer trails, tree-stand location, wind and weather conditions, and then you need to train yourself to blend into all of those conditions quietly, motionlessly, and unnoticed for hours and sometimes days on end - enough so that an incredibly keen and perceptive animal will unknowingly walk within 50 feet of you without even realizing it. This kid has worked at all of those things, put in his practice and research, and ended up getting a great shot on a great looking deer.

 

It's thrilling for pretty much anyone when a whole lot of work pays off. I don't understand what all the excitement is in Nascar racing because it doesn't interest me, but I know a lot of people have to work long and hard to win one of those races, and I can certainly understand why they would be thrilled to do so. Same goes for hunting.

 

I'm not so far out to not be able to understand that everyone has different interests. This one interest has always puzzled me because it's one that is related to the death of another animal for the satisfaction of the shooter. I've no doubt that a lot of practice goes into it, but taking aim at a moving target can also be done without killing something, cant' it?

 

Using examples that people like this and that doesn't fly with me, when in this case the end result is death, while the other examples are not. Big difference.

 

I think in many ways it boils down to a male ego and approval of like minded buddies, and me being different, it's a part of the male makeup that I don't think that I'll ever be able to identify with as I'm a big wuss.

Some people like to kill, some don't.

People have all kinds of affinities, I don't understand a lot of them. To each his own.

I'm not so far out to not be able to understand that everyone has different interests. This one interest has always puzzled me because it's one that is related to the death of another animal for the satisfaction of the shooter. I've no doubt that a lot of practice goes into it, but taking aim at a moving target can also be done without killing something, cant' it?

 

Using examples that people like this and that doesn't fly with me, when in this case the end result is death, while the other examples are not. Big difference.

 

I think in many ways it boils down to a male ego and approval of like minded buddies, and me being different, it's a part of the male makeup that I don't think that I'll ever be able to identify with as I'm a big wuss.

 

Successfully harvesting an animal is much different from taking aim on moving target....it's taking aim on a perceptive target. It's taking aim on a target that would otherwise try to elude you.

 

And as much as people focus on the goal being to "kill"...that is a vast over-simplification of the scenario. You kill, but you also get meat. You kill, but you also are helping thin the herd (which in the case of white tail deer, desperately NEEDS management). I suppose there are people out there who have some kind of strange sense of killing for pleasure...but for the responsible hunters in the world which DO represent the majority, the fact that you're ending an animal's life is not the real thrill. That's why responsible hunters worry so much about working hard to get an optimal shot that will quickly end the animal's life and in as painless a fashion as possible - like that boy did with an extremely well placed bow-shot that dropped the buck immediately.