PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 True but JT was separate from the players and met his fate in the NCAA. If Manziel can allegedly get around 40k for autographs and sentenced to a 1 half suspension, why shouldn't everyone, I don't see why it's open game. The NCAA continues to pick and choose. And now you want the rules relaxed? I'm so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 And now you want the rules relaxed? I'm so confused. No, the rules can't apply to everyone differently. But if Cam and Manziel can get paid and sanctioned why shouldn't everyone try? That's why rules and laws exist to prevent people from crossing the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 No, the rules can't apply to everyone differently. But if Cam and Manziel can get paid and sanctioned why shouldn't everyone try? That's why rules and laws exist to prevent people from crossing the line. Case-by-case basis. That's the way it is. Did he lie about it when asked by the NCAA or did he fess up? Who exactly paid him? Was it a licensed agent hoping to land Gurley's services when he goes pro like Reggie Bush? Just because money was involved for autographs doesn't mean it should be treated the same as the other cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbird Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 As was stated already. I had a problem with all the trouble the OSU players got in for selling their own stuff and selling autpgraphs shouldn't be a violation, but the fact it is makes what he did cause for suspension imo. What kills me is the fact that he is going to make millions at the next level, just keep your nose clean this year and you can write your own ticket. When someone like him can't even do that I don't feel sorry for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 He just got caught... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Case-by-case basis. That's the way it is. Did he lie about it when asked by the NCAA or did he fess up? Who exactly paid him? Was it a licensed agent hoping to land Gurley's services when he goes pro like Reggie Bush? Just because money was involved for autographs doesn't mean it should be treated the same as the other cases. I understand what you're saying but you're also creating a way for players to get paid by creating stipulations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I understand what you're saying but you're also creating a way for players to get paid by creating stipulations... I don't disagree. I think they should be paid fairly for sure. Unfortunately they aren't and it bugs the crap out of me that Gurley and even Manziel and the others would jeopardize their eligibility and their team's wins for some cash. So. Selfish. They know the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokersWild24 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 It always amazes me that no one see's this as the eventuality of allowing players to sell autographs. I think that's already going on. Boosters will already indirectly pay people. Maybe it's giving an AAU coach or family member a job at the school or something like that, maybe it's a booster paying kids, whatever. Big time college athletics is already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Case-by-case basis. That's the way it is. Did he lie about it when asked by the NCAA or did he fess up? Who exactly paid him? Was it a licensed agent hoping to land Gurley's services when he goes pro like Reggie Bush? Just because money was involved for autographs doesn't mean it should be treated the same as the other cases. I disagree. If the rule is going to be that you can't be paid for autographs, it shouldn't matter whether you get paid $5 or $5,000. That's the only way to make it "fair." It's a stupid rule, but it can't be case by case, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokersWild24 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 A difference in the Manziel, Gurley, AJ Green of Georgia situations and Ohio State situation that people are also forgetting: the OSU memorabilia was also being traded to someone facing some pretty significant Federal years on drug charges. AJ Green signed some game worn gear and sold it. Manziel and Gurley were probably dealing with people who were autograph brokers or just doing it to make some extra cash and pocket spending money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I disagree. If the rule is going to be that you can't be paid for autographs, it shouldn't matter whether you get paid $5 or $5,000. That's the only way to make it "fair." It's a stupid rule, but it can't be case by case, IMO. Everything is case by case. Just the way it is. Cooperation has to be taken into account as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 It also should be noted that they are saying Georgia suspended Gurley and not the NCAA. Todd Gurley of Georgia Bulldogs suspended indefinitely - ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I disagree. If the rule is going to be that you can't be paid for autographs' date=' it shouldn't matter whether you get paid $5 or $5,000. That's the only way to make it "fair." It's a stupid rule, but it can't be case by case, IMO.[/quote'] I'm more of a black and white guy and agree with this. If your going 2 mph over you are speeding. The NCAA is a mess as we all know, creating case-by-case situations, is completely unfair as it will show favoritism and leniency toward some and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'm more of a black and white guy and agree with this. If your going 2 mph over you are speeding. The NCAA is a mess as we all know, creating case-by-case situations, is completely unfair as it will show favoritism and leniency toward some and not others. The NCAA hasn't done anything yet. Georgia did it on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'm more of a black and white guy Yeah, me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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