I might have read this wrong, if the coach is leading a prayer and making kids participate, then I don't think it is right, if he is leaving in voluntary I see no problem with it nor should anyone else. When I was in high school we had a minute of silence before we took the field and said the lord's prayer before every game much like other programs do I am sure. Kids weren't forced to say it but they could if they wanted, there is nothing wrong with that.

The way this country is going it wouldn't surprise me to see people protest that LCA should just be referred to as Lexington Academy when reporting scores.

 

The fact that Wesboro Church exists today tells you religion institutions aren't being damaged by the gov't.

I might have read this wrong, if the coach is leading a prayer and making kids participate, then I don't think it is right, if he is leaving in voluntary I see no problem with it nor should anyone else. When I was in high school we had a minute of silence before we took the field and said the lord's prayer before every game much like other programs do I am sure. Kids weren't forced to say it but they could if they wanted, there is nothing wrong with that.

 

More and more courts are disagreeing with you.

I'll be honest, I don't believe in any religion, could care less about it, but as a teenager I always felt awkward when we did the Lords Prayer. Schools should offer freedom from religion, like a previous poster said what If a coach was muslim and he quoted some passage from the Quran before pregame? Would everybody be fine with that? What if the coach was a Mormon?

^ Exactly!

I'll be honest, I don't believe in any religion, could care less about it, but as a teenager I always felt awkward when we did the Lords Prayer. ?

 

Exhibit A as to why courts have ruled as they have.

You certainly don't want to count on me as your legal scholar but I'm pretty sure there is a difference between a coach/team and the examples you cite. I seem to remember the ruling being based on the issue of "influence." A coach/teacher has influence over students/players - real or perceived. The examples you cite do not.

 

While we can wonder/debate why they allow prayer before sessions I don't think we can compare those with this.

 

What if students wanted to have a student-led prayer over the school's PA system?

What if students wanted to have a student-led prayer over the school's PA system?

 

Not going to be popular with many of you but I would say if that is the case those students need to set up a time independent of any school sanctioned event to hold the prayer over the school's PA system and anyone that wants to attend could do so.

As a strong Democrat Who attends church and prays - find it funny how Democrats are not people of Faith.

 

It says he can't lead the prayer. Doesn't say there can't be prayer. As a man of faith Coach Graham can do a couple of thjngs Lead the prayer and allow his faith to be in charge or he can listen to his boss and not lead the prayer. Not leading the prayer doesn't mean he can't be a christian influence.

 

At what point are Christians going to stand up for what they believe in? We can follow the laws of the land or we can follow our Faith. Seems to me the coach can still lead the prayer if he wants too.

What if students wanted to have a student-led prayer over the school's PA system?

 

I will answer that two different ways.

 

1. I'm fine with it overall.

2. I don't think it would pass the legal test. The PA itself legally would seem to indicate school endorsement. Again, my next law class will be my first so.....

Not going to be popular with many of you but I would say if that is the case those students need to set up a time independent of any school sanctioned event to hold the prayer over the school's PA system and anyone that wants to attend could do so.

 

A lot of folks who see this as you do would say the same.

 

My view is not so much that I'm advocating school-led prayer (although I'm certainly not opposed to that). My point is that the separation of church & state drum that is constantly being beaten is done so with great inconsistency.

 

The Declaration of Independence violates the ideal of separation of church & state, does it not?

My view is not so much that I'm advocating school-led prayer (although I'm certainly not opposed to that). My point is that the separation of church & state drum that is constantly being beaten is done so with great inconsistency.

 

Give it time, a clear, legal path has been mapped out.

I blame Obama. Because everything that's happened in the last 100 years is his fault.

Give it time, a clear, legal path has been mapped out.

 

But my point is if that our founders intended separation of church & state to be as divided as some say it should be, then why did they violate that very ideal when declaring our independence?

But my point is if that our founders intended separation of church & state to be as divided as some say it should be, then why did they violate that very ideal when declaring our independence?

 

I am going say they were great men on the right path but the job was far from finished.