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You assume he was allowed to make any moves.

 

If he wasn't, then that speaks to an even bigger problem, and this city will never win with current ownership.

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If he wasn't, then that speaks to an even bigger problem, and this city will never win with current ownership.

 

I agree with this.

You assume he was allowed to make any moves.

 

Correct. We don't know what restraints were put on him.

 

I'd also disagree with the initial assertion that Walt has put this team in a bad financial situation.

 

Big Bob aka "fan boy" put the Reds in a bad financial situation. JV and BP's contracts were a direct result of Bob .

 

The only moves I would support are moves that help starting next year. Any move aimed at trying to get a playoff spot this year would have been ill-conceived.

Correct. We don't know what restraints were put on him.

 

I'd also disagree with the initial assertion that Walt has put this team in a bad financial situation.

 

Big Bob aka "fan boy" put the Reds in a bad financial situation. JV and BP's contracts were a direct result of Bob .

 

The only moves I would support are moves that help starting next year. Any move aimed at trying to get a playoff spot this year would have been ill-conceived.

 

Do these max deals EVER work out over the long haul?

Never ever ever will anyone convince me that Rolen deal was a good deal. Said it then, stick to it now.

why not have traded Latos or Simon and Ludwick for Cespedes

why not have traded Latos or Simon and Ludwick for Cespedes

 

Would have probably just taken Cueto, would love to have Gomes back here as well

Never ever ever will anyone convince me that Rolen deal was a good deal. Said it then, stick to it now.

 

You are allowed to be wrong.

 

Could have gotten E5 back twice for peanuts. Complete revisionist history to say trading him was a bad deal...

Would have probably just taken Cueto, would love to have Gomes back here as well

 

Um, why?

No way, said it then too. Edwin got a raw deal here. Should have never been a 3b. Was rushed to the majors and was out of position his whole time here. Rolen was over paid and over valued while here. We got two good years out of him and missed 10 out of E.

No way, said it then too. Edwin got a raw deal here. Should have never been a 3b. Was rushed to the majors and was out of position his whole time here. Rolen was over paid and over valued while here. We got two good years out of him and missed 10 out of E.

 

He was so good after the trade the Jays DFA'd him and the A's thought so highly of him they released him 3 weeks later. Yeah, you saw him breaking out at 29 years old after all that... :rolleyes:

Also, after Votto got hurt, could they have pick Juan Francisco back up?

Before the season, I would have said bring him back. After watching the way this team has fallen apart and him doing nothing today about it, I say we don't renew with him.

why not have traded Latos or Simon and Ludwick for Cespedes

 

Cespedes is a FA after next season, so that would not have been a good trade.

Um, why?

 

Nothing more than just liked him as a player. The Heisey,Crudwick,anybody else in LF is as boring as dirt. Him and Cespedes went to Oakland for Lester, just saying would have done that deal for Cueto.

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