August 1, 201412 yr And to be fair (I always am), here's another viewpoint, which simply blames "Congress": No, the nation?s immigration challenges are Congress? fault, not presidential action | Dallas Morning News Whatever the president comes with to “fix” the current crisis – we sure know it won’t have Congress as a partner — will be from a position of weakness. As a nation, we ought to be able to do better.
August 1, 201412 yr And then there's this: Immigration reform delay will be Obama?s fault, Boehner says - CBS News Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., who has been one of the more vocal supporters of immigration reform among House Republicans, said he doubted whether an immigration bill could pass in 2014 because of Republican agreement on one big issue: “We don't trust the president to enforce the law.”
August 1, 201412 yr So I guess it depends on where you get your news.Both sides are the problem. Neither side wants to give an inch. The Democrats want to keep control, the Republicans want control. This is where I say Obama is a failure though. I'm no Bill Clinton fan, but I will say this, he knew how to lead, he knew how to actually reach across the aisle (not just pretend to), he knew how to work with the other side. That's why he was so much more successful than Obama will ever dream of being. Obama simply is NOT a leader.
August 1, 201412 yr The administration does not need Congress to do anything to stem the current 'crisis'. It needs to mostly do its job under current laws. Many blame the 2008 laws that allowed for special review of children involved in trafficking but that policy is being abused - by the administration. Here is a decent article on that: 2008 Trafficking Law Largely Inapplicable to Current Border Crisis | Center for Immigration Studies " ... Since there is little evidence to suggest that illegal immigrant children currently arriving at the U.S. border are victims of trafficking, and since few can be described as "unaccompanied alien children" under federal law, the 2008 trafficking law has limited applicability to the current border surge. Accordingly, the Obama administration should be limiting its use of the law where possible. Even where the 2008 act is applicable, provisions within the law allow its enforcement to be limited in "exceptional circumstances". ... First and foremost, the president should cease all public discussions about amnesty and the legalization of illegal aliens and instead send a message to would-be illegal aliens that the United States will defend its sovereignty and will not welcome those who seek to violate it. (Doubtful that will happen.) ... Secondly, the Obama administration should stop invoking trafficking laws in situations that involve smuggling. It was never the intent of Congress that legislation aimed at helping trafficking victims be used to benefit illegal immigrants who are willingly being smuggled into the United States. (The article points out that 'smuggling' and trafficking are different. Coyotes smuggle people in all the time but the do enslave them. 'Trafficking' is human slavery - usually for the sex trade. Most of those in question may have been smuggled in but are not part of a trafficking trade.) ... It is important that the administration go after the smuggling operations in order to stop some of the illegal immigration. It is difficult to determine who the smugglers are, however, unless ICE is able to interview the people who are paying them: the families of illegal alien minors. ... Those involved in smuggling should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. This would include the "coyotes" as well as families paying for their services. As ICE explains, human smuggling involves a "deliberate evasion of immigration laws".15 Tolerating such violations encourages more smuggling. Actual enforcement against those involved could quickly stop some of the operations. ... The Obama administration could make better use of Expedited Removal, an authority created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which allows immigration officers to quickly remove any inadmissible alien who is without a valid claim of asylum. ... Additionally, the Obama administration should negotiate repatriation agreements with countries that are seeing its people attempt to enter the United States illegally so that they can be returned home more quickly and efficiently. This does not require new legislation. Such agreements are critical during an emergency situation. ... The Obama administration appears to be hiding behind the 2008 law and acting like it requires them to allow the current wave of illegal immigration to continue. Yet the trafficking statute has little applicability to the situation at hand. Even without new legislation, the White House has a number of tools at its disposal to discourage the current influx of illegal immigrant families. " Execution and application of laws is the administration's role. Congress can pass laws but there are plenty on the books. Or then can authorize spending - as if that matters - everything is a continuing resolution in that area anyway (its not like there is an approved budget). The administration can spend money without Congress - the recent call for Congress to provide spending was simply a red herring to pass the issue back to Congress. One could view this as part of a massive Cloward-Piven strategy. It certainly creates a new deflecting issue that takes IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious and other scandals off the front pages. But its probably more of an administration in disarray. Since the Clinton people left with Hillary who are the key people running this administration? They know how campaign and blame, but who is really 'running' things when it comes to enforcing laws and developing policy.
August 2, 201412 yr I encourage everyone who supports these illegals to go to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California and see what these people have done to communities. We as a country cannot to continue to do nothing. Why is it we have someone (I know) who has worked at a job for the past 8-10 years who is from another country, pays their taxes and is a law abiding citizen cannot get her work visa extended but we cater to the illegals? Like I said before this person pays taxes, has their own health insurance, and lives off of no one but her own money but they are now losing their job because the government will not extend her work visa, RIDICULOUS!
August 3, 201412 yr I spoke to someone from Tucson yesterday. Her parents still live there but that is the only reason she will ever go back. She said that it was terrible.
August 3, 201412 yr I encourage everyone who supports these illegals to go to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California and see what these people have done to communities. We as a country cannot to continue to do nothing. Why is it we have someone (I know) who has worked at a job for the past 8-10 years who is from another country, pays their taxes and is a law abiding citizen cannot get her work visa extended but we cater to the illegals? Like I said before this person pays taxes, has their own health insurance, and lives off of no one but her own money but they are now losing their job because the government will not extend her work visa, RIDICULOUS!I know a programmer from India who had something similar happened to him. He returned to India to visit his family and made a mistake with his paperwork and was denied reentry into this country. He was a very hard worker, paid his taxes, etc., and was in the middle of an important project for the federal government but now he is working in Canada and unable to get a visa to return here. Foreign workers who work here legally are forced to jump through all sorts of hoops to avoid deportation. Until they can obtain a green card, they are not allowed to change employers. If they make a minor screw-up, then they are forced to start the application process for a green card from scratch. The system encourages their employers to pay them less than their American counterparts. The current H1-B visa system is the modern version of indentured servitude. People who come here to work legally deserve better treatment - at least treatment equal to those who are here illegally and ignore our laws. This is an upside down country with the inmates running the asylum.
August 3, 201412 yr I encourage everyone who supports these illegals to go to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California and see what these people have done to communities. We as a country cannot to continue to do nothing. Why is it we have someone (I know) who has worked at a job for the past 8-10 years who is from another country, pays their taxes and is a law abiding citizen cannot get her work visa extended but we cater to the illegals? Like I said before this person pays taxes, has their own health insurance, and lives off of no one but her own money but they are now losing their job because the government will not extend her work visa, RIDICULOUS! I would encourage you to go to El Paso. The place of my birth and where i have gone back and forth to throughout my life. If i am not mistaken, El Paso is rated the safest city in the United States. It has been the only city in my life where i have never felt afraid to to go anywhere in a particular city. The illegals in El Paso are treated like any humans should be treated, like a human. They are given a chance by El Paso to be a model human being and to contribute to the city. Trust me, no one knows to be on their best behavior better than immigrants. The reason those communities you speak of are the way they are is because the cities allow it to be. Yes, i agree that people who come to america and try to go about things the right way should be taken care of the right away before illegal immigrants. What irks me about this situation is many people are trying to cast all the blame on illegals on why communities throughout the southwest are "bad". It is a silly notion that i have experienced to be be very untrue. There are many factors that i would put more emphasis on contributing to a bad community than illegal immigrants. I would start with people that are elected to public office and the constituents who voted them in...
August 3, 201412 yr So, just so we're clear about this: We're all OK with our grocery bills tripling and perhaps quadrupling?
August 3, 201412 yr I would encourage you to go to El Paso. The place of my birth and where i have gone back and forth to throughout my life. If i am not mistaken, El Paso is rated the safest city in the United States. It has been the only city in my life where i have never felt afraid to to go anywhere in a particular city. The illegals in El Paso are treated like any humans should be treated, like a human. They are given a chance by El Paso to be a model human being and to contribute to the city. Trust me, no one knows to be on their best behavior better than immigrants. The reason those communities you speak of are the way they are is because the cities allow it to be. Yes, i agree that people who come to america and try to go about things the right way should be taken care of the right away before illegal immigrants. What irks me about this situation is many people are trying to cast all the blame on illegals on why communities throughout the southwest are "bad". It is a silly notion that i have experienced to be be very untrue. There are many factors that i would put more emphasis on contributing to a bad community than illegal immigrants. I would start with people that are elected to public office and the constituents who voted them in... You are mistaken. El Paso is not the safest city in the U.S. It is not even as safe as Lexington but it does have a lower violent crime rate than Louisville. El Paso's crime rate is much lower than I expected. It had the 13th lowest violent crime rate for cities with a population of 250,000 or more in 2012. United States cities by crime rate Illegal immigrants need to be deported and the sooner that happens the better. However, I agree that the fault with the chaos at the border belongs squarely on the people who vote politicians into office who refuse to enforce our immigration laws and continue to support them no matter how many laws they mangle and break. If the Obama administration began enforcing the law, then businesses would stop hiring illegal immigrants in such large numbers and most would go home to find work.
August 3, 201412 yr So, just so we're clear about this: We're all OK with our grocery bills tripling and perhaps quadrupling?No, but grocery bills are already soaring because of inflation and soaring energy costs. Are you okay with that? Do you realize that Cesar Chavez was a staunch opponent of illegal immigration because it allowed companies a ready source of strike breakers that kept wages low for legal migrant workers? Using illegal aliens to suppress the wages of American citizens and other legal workers is wrong.
August 3, 201412 yr Officials credited law enforcement and residents working together in making El Paso the city with the lowest crime rate ranking of cities more than 500,000 in the annual City Crime Rankings by CQ Press. Different sources say different things, nevertheless El paso is a safe city. Law enforcement plays a huge part in how a city operates with its safety issues. The El Paso Police Department is not perfect, but they do damn good job. Im sorry to say to you Mitch Rapp, but no, these illegals wouldn't leave and go home to find work. That is a fantasy. People can try to blame obama on this, but george bush wasn't exactly great with illegal immigration either. Like the crime issue, many people say these immigrants pose financial threats to our country. I don't disagree that these immigrants rack up the bill, they however do not come close to to the unnecessary budget for our defense and other worthless programs ran by our country. Maybe if we didn't look down on good blue collar jobs that many kids today have been raised to believe are beneath them, the immigrants would struggle to find jobs and would think twice before crossing the border.
August 3, 201412 yr Officials credited law enforcement and residents working together in making El Paso the city with the lowest crime rate ranking of cities more than 500,000 in the annual City Crime Rankings by CQ Press. Different sources say different things, nevertheless El paso is a safe city. Law enforcement plays a huge part in how a city operates with its safety issues. The El Paso Police Department is not perfect, but they do damn good job. Im sorry to say to you Mitch Rapp, but no, these illegals wouldn't leave and go home to find work. That is a fantasy. People can try to blame obama on this, but george bush wasn't exactly great with illegal immigration either. Like the crime issue, many people say these immigrants pose financial threats to our country. I don't disagree that these immigrants rack up the bill, they however do not come close to to the unnecessary budget for our defense and other worthless programs ran by our country. Maybe if we didn't look down on good blue collar jobs that many kids today have been raised to believe are beneath them, the immigrants would struggle to find jobs and would think twice before crossing the border. I also blame Bush, along with Obama, and Clinton for the ongoing illegal invasion from our southern neighbors. One way or another, illegal aliens need to leave. Will it happen? It is very unlikely because American businesses want cheap labor and Democrats want Hispanic voters - but reversing the invasion is the right thing to do and in this country's best long term interests. As for defense being a worthless "program," that is sheer fantasy. Our federal government has a constitutional obligation to provide Americans with secure borders. No such right for illegal aliens to receive jobs and/or welfare benefits exists.
August 3, 201412 yr So, just so we're clear about this: We're all OK with our grocery bills tripling and perhaps quadrupling? Based on what analysis?
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