July 31, 201412 yr Makes sense on the surface. But if the initial post was anywhere near correct in its assumptions, are legislators guilty of not seeing the forest for the trees (not that THAT"S ever happened before)? Legislators would cut off their noses to spite their faces. Morons one and all.
July 31, 201412 yr Subject: this is why Americans want tighter border partrol and illegal immigrantion upheld To: President Barack Obama March 13, 2014 JOHN vs. JUAN You have two families: "John Legal" and "Juan Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in Arizona .. John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted. Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 in cash "under the table". Ready? Now pay attention.... John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has $31,231.00. Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200 per year.Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00. John Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. John Legal now has $24,031.00. Juan Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00. John Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. John Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000..00 per year. John Legal now has $18,031.00. Juan Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00. John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. John Legal now has 9,631.00. Juan Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Juan Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $ 31,200.00. John Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. John Legal now has $7,231.00. Juan Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00. John Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.. Juan Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.. John Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Juan Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. John Legal's and Juan Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. John Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Juan Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Juan Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. John Legal's children go home. Now, when they reach college age, John Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though John has been paying for state schools through his taxes, while Juan Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority. John Legal and Juan Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but John paid for them and Juan did not pay. If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens... You are part of the problem! Go to numbersusa on the web to make your voice heard today!
July 31, 201412 yr You're right, we need to run another 100 democrats out of office. Wouldn't help your cause. This fight is between the two wings of the Republican Party.
July 31, 201412 yr Wouldn't help your cause. This fight is between the two wings of the Republican Party. Fewer dems ALWAYS helps the cause.
July 31, 201412 yr Fewer dems ALWAYS helps the cause. Boehner couldn't round up 218 votes so he yanked the bill. And Republicans wonder why Obama issues executive orders.
July 31, 201412 yr They don't wonder, they know he does it because he's too weak of a president to lead.
July 31, 201412 yr Author Wouldn't help your cause. This fight is between the two wings of the Republican Party. GOP leadership, if you want to call it that, needs to go.
August 1, 201412 yr Boehner couldn't round up 218 votes so he yanked the bill. And Republicans wonder why Obama issues executive orders. Wouldn't matter if they got the votes. If it got to Obama, no matter what they passed, he'd veto it.
August 1, 201412 yr Wouldn't matter if they got the votes. If it got to Obama, no matter what they passed, he'd veto it. Senate's got nothing also. Just another day in Washington.
August 1, 201412 yr Wouldn't matter if they got the votes. If it got to Obama, no matter what they passed, he'd veto it. Why do you and your pals in the Pachyderm Club keep making stuff up? Google "Obama" and "veto number." Does the count still stand at two?
August 1, 201412 yr Why do you and your pals in the Pachyderm Club keep making stuff up? Google "Obama" and "veto number." Does the count still stand at two?Lois Lerner, is that you? Next thing you know you'll do your best Luis Gutierrez imitation and tell us we despise all children...
August 1, 201412 yr Lois Lerner, is that you? Next thing you know you'll do your best Luis Gutierrez imitation and tell us we despise all children... Start a new thread. Call it "Political Fiction." Post your inaccuracies there.
August 1, 201412 yr Start a new thread. Call it "Political Fiction." Post your inaccuracies there.I'll let you take care of that, you do a great job, daily, repeatedly. So, you are going to sit here and tell me that whatever the Republicans pass, the Dems will push through and then Obama will sign it. Yeah, that's going to happen on immigration.
August 1, 201412 yr Why do you and your pals in the Pachyderm Club keep making stuff up? Google "Obama" and "veto number." Does the count still stand at two? That couldn't have anything to do with Dirty Harry stopping any legislation from the House from ever getting a vote could it? After November when McConnell is the leader the Tyrant-in-Chief will get plenty of opportunity to use his veto pen.
August 1, 201412 yr All depends on who you're listening to. Plenty of opinions on both sides of the aisle. Here's an example: Senate Dems to Boehner: Immigration Reform Is Alive, but It's Your Fault It's Stumbling - NationalJournal.com lthough they rebutted the notion that the issue is dead in the House, Senate Democrats still walloped Republicans, deploying what has become a key political cudgel: that Republicans cause D.C.'s gridlock. "They're developing a trend here. Shutting down the government. Shutting down immigration reform. It's the Shutdown Republicans Caucus. That isn't what the American public sent us here to do," said Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin of Illinois.
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