Everytown.org.

 

I agree with you about needing all the facts. But I feel the value in this study is:

 

 

3) Domestic violence is a HUGE ISSUE, and doesn't get nearly enough attention or resources, given the number of shootings and abuse that doesn't meet the criteria to include in this study.

Include abuse, misuse, misdiagnosis of the meds I referred to and you'd have a more thorough study than ever done before. I think you should apply for a grant.

Ritalin side effects:

Common Side Effects

 

 

• Addiction
  
• Nervousness including agitation, anxiety and irritability
  
• Trouble sleeping (insomnia)
  
• Decreased appetite
  
• Headache
  
• Stomach ache
  
• Nausea
  
• Dizziness
  
• Heart palpitations
  

Other Serious Side Effects Include

 

 

• Slowing of growth (height and weight) in children
  
• Seizures, mainly in patients with a history of seizures
  
• Eyesight changes or blurred vision
  

Less Common Side Effects

 

 

• High blood pressure
  
• Rapid pulse rate (and other heart problems)
  
• Tolerance (constant need to raise the dose)
  
• Feelings of suspicion and paranoia
  
• Visual hallucinations (seeing things that are not there)
  
• Depression
  
• Cocaine craving
  
• Dermatoses (infected or diseased skin)
  
• Urinary tract infection
  
• Infection or viral infection
  
• Elevated ALT enzyme levels in the blood (signaling liver damage)
  

 

 

Prozac side effects:

Prozac can increase the risk of suicidal thoughts and behavior in children, teenagers, and young adults. Your healthcare provider will monitor you closely for clinical worsening and suicidal or unusual behavior after you start taking Prozac or start a new dose of Prozac. Tell your healthcare provider right away if you experience anxiety, hostility, sleeplessness, restlessness, impulsive or dangerous behavior, or thoughts about suicide or dying; or if you have new symptoms or seem to be feeling worse.

More common side effects may include: unusual dreams, sexual problems, loss of appetite, anxiety, weakness, diarrhea, dry mouth, upset stomach, flu-like symptoms, trouble sleeping, nausea, nervousness, sore throat, rash, sinus pain and congestion, drowsiness, sweating, shaking, hot flashes, yawning.

Less common side effects may include:

Serotonin syndrome (a potentially life-threatening drug reaction that causes the body to have too much serotonin, a chemical produced by the nerve cells) with symptoms such as mental status changes (such as agitation or hallucinations); a fast heartbeat; high or low blood pressure; coordination problems or muscle twitching; muscle stiffness; dizziness; flushing; tremor; seizures; or nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea.

Severe allergic reactions with symptoms such as rash, hives, or blisters, alone or with fever or joint pain; trouble breathing; or swelling of your face, tongue, eyes, or mouth.

Abnormal bleeding or bruising, especially if you also take blood thinners (such as warfarin), nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) (such as ibuprofen or naproxen), or aspirin.

Manic episodes with symptoms such as greatly increased energy, severe trouble sleeping, racing thoughts, reckless behavior, excessive happiness or irritability, or talking more or faster than usual.

Low blood sodium (salt) levels with symptoms such as headache, weakness, an unsteady feeling, confusion, problems concentrating or thinking, or memory problems.

Seizures or changes in appetite or weight.

 

 

 

 

 

I could continue with the serotonin drugs, but they all read the same.

 

As an ADHD family I can comment on Ritlan (and popular related drug Adderall).

 

At the end of the day they are water-soluble amphetamines. They spur dopamine activity and steady out brain activity. The reason they work fairly well with some truly ADHD cases is because they create a constant level of brain activity not matter how boring or dull or non-stimulating the surrounding environment is. There is not much chemical impact and being water-soluble they flush out of the system fairly easily and quickly. They can be and are abused. Their amphetamine base makes them a favorite of college students at finals and test time - even those not clinically ADHD.

 

Proper use and monitoring of them should not be considered too problematic. But ADHD is definitely over-diagnosed and any brain impacting drug may have a 'calming' effect on a child since the body knows something is 'different' and usually cause a child to 'calm down' at least a first. Unfortunately, if the diagnosis is wrong and the diagnosis is wrong - the negative traits will often come back. The usual response is - up the dosage - sometimes till it hits its recommended max. Not good medicine. Personally I believe that ADHD is the genetic remnants of the 'hunter' or 'Edison' gene as described by Thom Hartman. Thus it is not a 'defect' but just a genetic disposition against boring situations - like traditional school.

 

The depression, bi-polar, non-stimulant ADHD drugs mostly non-water soluble and stay in the system and are made to change chemical interaction. They stay in the body far longer and have more lasting impact. They worry me greatly. We tried one non-stimulant ADHD drug after a child was off anything for a while (few years) but did feel they that they needed some help again. It did not go well and when mentioned to a school principle she had an instant and negative reaction to hearing about that particular drug. Clearly she had practical experience in other situations. So I find these type of drugs concerning. They do not just kick up the dopamine action, they change things, and they stay in the body longer. Much more caution is needed.

Include abuse, misuse, misdiagnosis of the meds I referred to and you'd have a more thorough study than ever done before. I think you should apply for a grant.

 

The pro gun crowd are welcome to compile such a comprehensive study as well. Yes, you listed an impressive list of incidents. But what is needed is to compile a list of ALL incidents and a comparison of those using the meds to those not before one can ascertain the level of culpability of the drugs. Many people suffer mental illness with no treatment or alternative treatment (isn't it weird that treatment without drugs is considered "alternative?).

 

I personally don't think jealousy, inability to control rage or desire for revenge are necessarily mental health issues as a whole. Often they are a result of never learning basic self control and/or never being held accountable for their actions, and/or an inflated self esteem and lack of consideration of others rights.

The pro gun crowd are welcome to compile such a comprehensive study as well. Yes, you listed an impressive list of incidents. But what is needed is to compile a list of ALL incidents and a comparison of those using the meds to those not before one can ascertain the level of culpability of the drugs. Many people suffer mental illness with no treatment or alternative treatment (isn't it weird that treatment without drugs is considered "alternative?).

 

I personally don't think jealousy, inability to control rage or desire for revenge are necessarily mental health issues as a whole. Often they are a result of never learning basic self control and/or never being held accountable for their actions, and/or an inflated self esteem and lack of consideration of others rights.

And here is a larger problem I alluded to earlier. Let's just assume that we did find, through thorough study, that the med(s) was the underlying chemical issue. Not discounting other environmental issues like domestic violence and others. But the common denominator was a med issue. I can't believe that any elected government official would want to attack that windmill. Eli Lilly, for example, manufactures prozac. Perhaps I'm simply jaded when it comes to the motives of our elected officials, but can you believe that there would be one willing to call Eli Lilly to the carpet, for example?

And with that said, it's easier to attack the guns.

And here is a larger problem I alluded to earlier. Let's just assume that we did find, through thorough study, that the med(s) was the underlying chemical issue. Not discounting other environmental issues like domestic violence and others. But the common denominator was a med issue. I can't believe that any elected government official would want to attack that windmill. Eli Lilly, for example, manufactures prozac. Perhaps I'm simply jaded when it comes to the motives of our elected officials, but can you believe that there would be one willing to call Eli Lilly to the carpet, for example?

Politicians won't force a reformulation of Sudaphed to eliminate the ability to use it in manufacturing Meth...if they won't do that I agree there is no way they go after psychotropic drugs at the root of nearly every mass shooting (not domestic in nature).

Me either!

 

I guess my question is, can one just sell guns online like that? What are the laws about selling guns?

It is legal for me to sell you a gun, private seller to private seller without any background check.

 

If a dealer is selling a gun a 4473 form must be completed and the call center contacted to complete the background check. (ATF does verify this, I've been through several audits with them)

 

There is currently no system that an individual selling a gun can go through to sell a firearm and ensure that person can legally purchase it. A good way to help ensure your selling to someone that should be able to purchase a firearm is to only sell to those with CCDW Permits.

Aren't hand guns suppose to be legally transferred even with private seller to private seller?

Aren't hand guns suppose to be legally transferred even with private seller to private seller?

 

Legally Transferred how?

 

There is no mechanism in place to do that, nor has there ever been as far as I know.

When we sell a Firearm to a private individual we get pertinent information from the buyer and keep that on file in case we are ever question about a gun that we purchased and where it is now.

77 of the 110 Mass Shooting occurred on Private Property, ie residences of victim or shooters.

33 in public spaces where in 15 took place in Gun Free Zones which the study tries to play down putting Gun Free Zone Shootings at on 14%

 

But take the 77 out and that leaves 15 of 33 mass shooting occurring in Gun Free Zones or 45%. 45% of all mass shootings in public areas occurred in Gun Free Zones, NOT 14% as the study tries to mislead the readers by including shootings on private property.

 

WELL DONE SIR.

I found the statistics of perpetrators in the domestic violence interesting in that in a large number of them, there were reasons they could not legally own a gun, yet still procured them.

 

I find the domestic violence statistics in this study to be the most interesting aspect of the endeavor. Maybe because it's something personal for me.

 

So you found it interesting that people that could NOT legally own a gun chose to break the law and kill someone? I'm curious as to what gun law or restrictions you think may stop that from happening in the future? Serious question RM???

I have said for years that one of the biggest misses in gun violence after Mental Health is Domestic Violence...IMO if an Emergency Protective Order or Domestic Violence Order is placed on someone, that information should be put in the FBI/NICS Data Base and they should be denied approval to purchase firearms until the issue is resolved to a judges satisfaction.

 

Have you read the newest laws that just went in effect this week regarding people with EPO's? Allows them to get a concealed carry permit in an expedited time frame. Not preaching to you just thought you'd like to know about it. I think it's a good move to protect people.

So...I am on a number of Facebook groups that are like virtual yard sales. Tonight I saw someone post a 12 gauge pump shotgun for sale for $200. The person said they were in a motel and could meet there. That sounds just all kinds of wrong to me. Is that kind of sale legal?

 

A shotgun is typically used for hunting and yes its legal. I will give you this though if you can shoot and want some bang for your buck a shotgun is a devastating weapon. I wasn't a big fan until just recently.

Don't know if it's legal. But I ain't going to no motel to buy no gun.

 

Smart man, unless you know the person or meet in a very public area I wouldn't recommend meeting anyone to but anything. Pay a few more bucks to have it shipped if the price is right.