Unlike our current president' date=' I believe deeply in the U.S. Constitution. You have as much right to vote as I have. I can only hope that voters who make poor decisions such as voting for Obama learn from their mistakes. (I could say the same about people who support John Boehner.) It's not an intellect issue, it is a judgment issue.[/quote']

 

I don't find that those of us who voted for Pres. Obama made poor decisions. Those I know who did are very reasonable and responsible citizens.

 

Your OPINION of us in no way a fact.

You assume correctly' date=' ma'am. I consider it illegitimate because it has been used as a wedge issue and framed as a Democrat vs. Republican issue, while there is no evidence that Republican men pay women any differently than Democratic men do.[/quote']

 

You CONSIDER it illegitimate. That is an opinion.

I don't find that those of us who voted for Pres. Obama made poor decisions. Those I know who did are very reasonable and responsible citizens.

 

Your OPINION of us in no way a fact.

I have never, ever claimed that my opinions are facts. It seems obvious that what we post in this forum is opinion. Disclaimers stating such should not be necessary. :lol2:

 

BTW, the statements about Obama voters that you made is nothing more than your own personal opinion. The only fact that you presented is that my opinion is not a fact, but even that is your personal opinion. I am fairly confident that history will show that those who voted twice for Obama were fools for doing so, but only time will tell which of us is right.

You CONSIDER it illegitimate. That is an opinion.

Is it your opinion that every opinion posted in this form needs to be explicitly labeled as an opinion rather than a fact? Are you willing to abide by that rule yourself? When I read others' posts, I find it fairly easy to discern opinions from facts but if you are having difficulty doing so, then I can certainly include explicit declarations in my responses to your posts. Just say the word...

Is it your opinion that every opinion posted in this form needs to be explicitly labeled as an opinion rather than a fact? Are you willing to abide by that rule yourself? When I read others' posts' date=' I find it fairly easy to discern opinions from facts but if you are having difficulty doing so, then I can certainly include explicit declarations in my responses to your posts. Just say the word...[/quote']

 

Fair enough. I'll read your posts with that knowledge.

Fair enough. I'll read your posts with that knowledge.

You should read all posts with that knowledge, even those with which you agree. I support my opinions with evidence more often than most posters but the distinction between my opinions and the evidence that I post to support them is never ambiguous.

You should read all posts with that knowledge' date=' even those with which you agree. I support my opinions with evidence more often than most posters but the distinction between my opinions and the evidence that I post to support them is never ambiguous.[/quote']

 

I do. It's when the posts are worded and constructed so as to present an perception of expertise that I then reread them and search externally for sourcing to investigate further.

Nine-ten examples, and you're still not convinced? If the aggregate of evidence is not proof of an assault on women's rights, then gee, any more examples will simply fall by the wayside.

 

Perhaps the 20-point gender gap is simply a polling error.

 

By the way, your "talking point" talking point has become hackneyed. You're capable of better smarm.

 

I am not convinced because study after study after study of this so-called broad based issues shows - its not true. Its been shown not true when actually comparing like for like roles.

 

It is a straight up lie for a political purpose.

I am not convinced because study after study after study of this so-called broad based issues shows - its not true. Its been shown not true when actually comparing like for like roles.

 

It is a straight up lie for a political purpose.

 

But it makes such a nice headline and talking point which is as far as most people get in their deep analysis.

No they did not, but if they want to take away these little pills, it is OK by me.

 

That's all well and good, but they didn't.

 

Bottom line - conservative-leaning men are generally gonna make sure that they can get their rocks off, and the consequences for those with whom said rocks are getting off be damned.

That's all well and good, but they didn't.

 

Bottom line - conservative-leaning men are generally gonna make sure that they can get their rocks off, and the consequences for those with whom said rocks are getting off be damned.

So, it's only conservative men who are impregnating women that are now not covered with the morning after pill? Interesting

So, it's only conservative men who are impregnating women that are now not covered with the morning after pill? Interesting

 

 

Oh, I don't doubt that impregnating women is party-blind. But it seems to me that those doing the deciding on the issues lean right.

Oh, I don't doubt that impregnating women is party-blind. But it seems to me that those doing the deciding on the issues lean right.

 

So the logical stretch is to say it's a conservative problem across the board. And only conservatives use male enhancement pills. Do you disagree that's how you portrayed it?

I am not convinced because study after study after study of this so-called broad based issues shows - its not true. Its been shown not true when actually comparing like for like roles.

 

It is a straight up lie for a political purpose.

You're saying study after study indicates we don't have a gender gap ... or are you just arguing equal pay? Share a couple of these studies with the board. You also might want to offer your own explanation as to why we have a 20-point gender gap. Or is this fiction too?

You assume correctly, ma'am. I consider it illegitimate because it has been used as a wedge issue and framed as a Democrat vs. Republican issue, while there is no evidence that Republican men pay women any differently than Democratic men do.

Didn't Todd Akin get in hot water over using the word "legitimate"?