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Freedom or Free Stuff?

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If my math is right (and it might not be), there were approximately 52,000,000 voters making under $50k. About 31,200,000 went for the President & about 19,800,000 went for Romney.

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In the 2012 presidential election, Romney won 52-48 of those whose highest degree is 8th grade. Obama won the post-grad segment 62-38.

 

So, no, I don't think many of you know how the uneducated will vote.

 

I don't care who they voted for, I would rather have informed than uninformed voters deciding the leaders of this country.

67,310,000 voters were women. 36,900,000 went for Obama & 29,600,000 for Romney. Again, if my math is right. Someone smarter should double check that. :lol2:

I don't care who they voted for, I would rather have informed than uninformed voters deciding the leaders of this country.

Actually, voters today are more informed than at any previous time in our country's history.

People with diplomas and degrees are not necessarily well informed voters. College students tend to be woefully under informed.

Another example of you making something up. Another broad generality not established in fact. Perhaps the GOP should hire analysts to find out why it fares so poorly among young people and women.

Actually, voters today are more informed than at any previous time in our country's history.

 

And, at the same time, the most ill informed group in history.

And, at the same time, the most ill informed group in history.

.....so should limits be placed on campaign financing and spending? Sometimes I think the more spending there is, the more the issues are obfuscated. Kind of like a good trial lawyer confusing the jury when he doesn't have the facts on his side.

Voters need to be more discerning through better education and street smarts.

But you do have a point, Obama's deceptive "Republican War on Women" ad campaign was very effective.

I didn't see any evidence of deception. All one has to do is examine the 2012 GOP national platform. Besides, it doesn't matter whether the "GOP War on Women" is real. What matters is whether the public perceives such to be true and whether the public votes accordingly.

 

Women voted for Obama over McCain and Romney by 14 points(!) in both '08 and '12, despite the stellar campaigning of Sarah Palin.

Actually, voters today are more informed than at any previous time in our country's history.

No the majority of voters today don't know who their Congressman or even Senator is. Voters when asked in blind comparison often support the views of the candidate that they did not vote for. There is a better opportunity to be informed today than ever before due to all of the various media outlets available including social media. When people can name more Kardashians than members of the Supreme Court or even members of their own city councils you can't say they are informed.

Yet it's being attempted all over the country. Under the guise of something else, but that's what it is.

How is it being limited? In Rural Kentucky I have to show an ID to Vote, but for some reason it is a hardship for those in other areas to do the same. That is a tired argument that showing an ID is a determent to voting.

 

Do you think this is a good idea...

New York Dem: Illegals Should Have The Right To Vote | The Daily Caller

When people can name more Kardashians than members of the Supreme Court or even members of their own city councils you can't say they are informed.

Perhaps it's time for the Supremes to allow cameras in the courtroom (gasp!). Call it "Reality Justice." Run it on the E Network rather than on C-SPAN. Scalia and Thomas don't have any problem appearing on TV when they're peddling their books. Problem solved.

 

I think that voters today are fairly well informed. The right likes to think the opposite because they're losing with females, young people and non-whites. In other words, the GOP argument is "If people are not voting Republican, it must be because they're not embracing 'the truth.' "

^ I know that doesn't give the total numbers, but it does give what percentage of voters for each specific classification. About 127,000,000 voted in the 2012 election.

Percentages cannot be used to support the claim that the poorest voters were responsible for putting President Obama in office, unless we know how many voters there were in each category.

 

I simply want the right statistics used to back up the right claims.

Voters today are as ignorant as we've ever been. The average voter knows no more than what the headline blasts on the website. As tcjkbt mentioned, there's a lot of misinformation. Voters should be more informed but the problem is that they have to make the effort to cut through all the garbage to get to the truth. Can't use one, or even a couple sources.

If my math is right (and it might not be), there were approximately 52,000,000 voters making under $50k. About 31,200,000 went for the President & about 19,800,000 went for Romney.

Where does the 52,000,000 come from?

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