This is what I don't get though. The republicans are infighting so badly that they'll not support "their guy" and lose the election and then blame liberals/democrats for all of the government's failures.

 

 

I don't understand that logic. It's like there is no accountability in the republican party to come together as one and put their best foot forward to support one another and take back the White House. It's much easier to punt the election and point the finger across the aisle for being able to defeat a splintered party.

 

I'm paraphrasing, but I read something like this in one of the action/crime fiction books I always have my nose in.

 

"Republicans are the party of breaking things, then trying to get rid of them - claiming that they're broken."

Uniting behind the wrong person is worse than chaos. The majority of American voters united behind Obama - twice - how has that worked out for us?

 

 

Pretty well IMO.

Pretty well IMO.

Well, then you are just the type of voter that Hillary Clinton is seeking.

Pretty well IMO.

 

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Because the GOP refuses to put out a decent candidate unfortunately.

Because the GOP refuses to put out a decent candidate unfortunately.

 

I don't know if they refuse to or haven't had one they though could win.

 

I think both parties at a national level get caught up in the ol' well we owe him a shot at it game.

 

Bob Dole, McCain, Romney to an extent for the GOP and Mondale, Dukakis, Gore to name a few...looking back even though Gore almost won none of those candidates from either side stood much of a chance. They were all stuffed shirts that didn't excite the voters. I'd love to see to fresh names at the top of both tickets during the next election, but if Hillary runs I think she'll be the nominee because I think most thought 6 years ago was to be her turn and President Obama beat her.

 

The last thing I want is Clinton vs Bush, even though Guru has to be silently wishing for that just based on the pages that would come out of that.

 

I'd like to see Bayh get a look from the Democratic Party and Rubio, Paul, Jindal, Carson or another fresh face get a shot.

I don't know if they refuse to or haven't had one they though could win.

 

I think both parties at a national level get caught up in the ol' well we owe him a shot at it game.

 

Bob Dole, McCain, Romney to an extent for the GOP and Mondale, Dukakis, Gore to name a few...looking back even though Gore almost won none of those candidates from either side stood much of a chance. They were all stuffed shirts that didn't excite the voters. I'd love to see to fresh names at the top of both tickets during the next election, but if Hillary runs I think she'll be the nominee because I think most thought 6 years ago was to be her turn and President Obama beat her.

 

The last thing I want is Clinton vs Bush, even though Guru has to be silently wishing for that just based on the pages that would come out of that.

 

I'd like to see Bayh get a look from the Democratic Party and Rubio, Paul, Jindal, Carson or another fresh face get a shot.

McCain and Romney. How come these guys? Because old men -- the backbone of the GOP -- vote for old men in the primaries. If you don't like the Republican candidates for president, then grow the party with younger voters. Good luck with that one.

McCain and Romney. How come these guys? Because old men -- the backbone of the GOP -- vote for old men in the primaries. If you don't like the Republican candidates for president, then grow the party with younger voters. Good luck with that one.

 

Don't need to. Young don't vote and as they get older they get smarter and vote R.

Don't need to. Young don't vote and as they get older they get smarter and vote R.

In the 2012 presidential election, the age 18-29 turnout was 45 percent, down from 51 percent in '08. In 2012 this age group voted for Obama 60-37 percent. No doubt this is one reason why some GOP states want to suppress the "youth" vote by reducing voting precincts in college towns, etc. Another desperate move by an aging political party.

In the 2012 presidential election, the age 18-29 turnout was 45 percent, down from 51 percent in '08. In 2012 this age group voted for Obama 60-37 percent. No doubt this is one reason why some GOP states want to suppress the "youth" vote by reducing voting precincts in college towns, etc. Another desperate move by an aging political party.

It will be interesting to see how the young vote this fall. I suspect that a few years of being unemployed or underemployed has eroded Democrats' hold on that particular demographic and that is what recent polls indicate as well.

It will be interesting to see how the young vote this fall. I suspect that a few years of being unemployed or underemployed has eroded Democrats' hold on that particular demographic and that is what recent polls indicate as well.

This group of voters has historically been under-represented in mid-term elections. So '14 won't be the litmus test. The real real question will be whether they turn out for Hillary in November '16. Even if they don't, the demographics are still trending most favorably toward the Dems in presidential election years.

In the 2012 presidential election, the age 18-29 turnout was 45 percent, down from 51 percent in '08. In 2012 this age group voted for Obama 60-37 percent. No doubt this is one reason why some GOP states want to suppress the "youth" vote by reducing voting precincts in college towns, etc. Another desperate move by an aging political party.

 

 

If you think 08 and 12 weren't anomalies, good luck. Youth don't vote.

This group of voters has historically been under-represented in mid-term elections. So '14 won't be the litmus test. The real real question will be whether they turn out for Hillary in November '16. Even if they don't, the demographics are still trending most favorably toward the Dems in presidential election years.

 

Not age which is the greatest indicator of voting performance.

This group of voters has historically been under-represented in mid-term elections. So '14 won't be the litmus test. The real real question will be whether they turn out for Hillary in November '16. Even if they don't, the demographics are still trending most favorably toward the Dems in presidential election years.

You are correct. As an increasing number of illegal aliens are allowed to vote, Democrats should win many elections as the nation's decline accelerates.

Not age which is the greatest indicator of voting performance.

Who's replacing all these old Republicans when they pass on? Hint: Check out the latest stats on the number of Hispanic teens who become eligible to vote every month.