How do they decide what each kid's 'score' will be?

How do they decide what each kid's 'score' will be?

If a kid is out of district they have a multiplier. Football the kid counts as 5, soccer it is 6, I cannot remember the other numbers.

And if the kid is not out of district?

And if the kid is not out of district?

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Seems like a stupid plan full of loopholes and politics. Who measures the player. Are they a third party. I say strap it up and play. Male beat both X & Trinity last year. So it can be done. I suggest public schools study St X & Trinity's programs and get better. Hire better coaches, to include actual strength & conditioning coaches, engage nutrient specialists & speed trainers to help players get bigger, faster and more athletic. Stop whining about private vs public. I would go back to 6-8 team districts and only the top 2 or 4 make the play-offs. As it is now too many teams in the play-offs that shouldn't be. The only option is for the KHSAA to coordinate with Ohio, Indiana and TN to form a private school regional conference.

Seems like a stupid plan full of loopholes and politics. Who measures the player. Are they a third party. I say strap it up and play. Male beat both X & Trinity last year. So it can be done. I suggest public schools study St X & Trinity's programs and get better. Hire better coaches, to include actual strength & conditioning coaches, engage nutrient specialists & speed trainers to help players get bigger, faster and more athletic. Stop whining about private vs public. I would go back to 6-8 team districts and only the top 2 or 4 make the play-offs. As it is now too many teams in the play-offs that shouldn't be. The only option is for the KHSAA to coordinate with Ohio, Indiana and TN to form a private school regional conference.

 

Hahahaha...Male is a public private, they can and do "attract" kids that they choose. It's not a coach better, work harder, lift more issue (reference the public/private debate in other threads for a litany of arguments). If you think that is the REASON for their success then you are dazed and confused. Are those things important ingredients? Yes. But the REALITY is that Jimmy's and Joe's are 90% of the battle...the other things you mentioned are 10%. You can have the privilege of all those nice things and be average without very good players. Likewise, you can have very good players and without SOME of those things you mentioned still not win every game. Best example is Bob Redman at Male vs Bob Redman at Jeffersonville (same program philosophy, different Jimmy's and Joe's). With that said, I don't like this multiply business with kids (agree that it leaves way too many loopholes). I do not know the answer to classification, but I am pretty sure using multipliers is not it.

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Seems like a stupid plan full of loopholes and politics. Who measures the player. Are they a third party. I say strap it up and play. Male beat both X & Trinity last year. So it can be done. I suggest public schools study St X & Trinity's programs and get better. Hire better coaches, to include actual strength & conditioning coaches, engage nutrient specialists & speed trainers to help players get bigger, faster and more athletic. Stop whining about private vs public. I would go back to 6-8 team districts and only the top 2 or 4 make the play-offs. As it is now too many teams in the play-offs that shouldn't be. The only option is for the KHSAA to coordinate with Ohio, Indiana and TN to form a private school regional conference.

 

AMEN brother. Well said! I totally agree. It's how you sorround your program. Better position coaches, strenght and conditioning coach, make it MANDATORY for players to lift on and off season. So MANY programs I know do not implement that and those are the teams that ususally whine.

Seems like a stupid plan full of loopholes and politics. Who measures the player. Are they a third party. I say strap it up and play. Male beat both X & Trinity last year. So it can be done. I suggest public schools study St X & Trinity's programs and get better. Hire better coaches, to include actual strength & conditioning coaches, engage nutrient specialists & speed trainers to help players get bigger, faster and more athletic. Stop whining about private vs public. I would go back to 6-8 team districts and only the top 2 or 4 make the play-offs. As it is now too many teams in the play-offs that shouldn't be. The only option is for the KHSAA to coordinate with Ohio, Indiana and TN to form a private school regional conference.

 

Seems overly optimistic to assume that public schools have the resources to do the things you are talking about... That isn't a realistic option for most school districts.

This seems like a really good plan to take the first steps in leveling the playing field. People have their head in the sand if they think teams win because they have great conditioning programs. Gimme a break. I favor any plan that keeps competitive sports balanced and fair. I like it.

Seems overly optimistic to assume that public schools have the resources to do the things you are talking about... That isn't a realistic option for most school districts.

 

How come Boyle Co, FT Highlands, Belfry, Lou Central, Collins, Bowling Green, Simon Kenton, Scott County, Mayfield, Paducah Thighman can do it? All from different school district, all public schools, all consistant winners year in and year out. ALL have great coaches/ asst coaches. It's not impossible if you invest on the program and buy into the system.

This seems like a really good plan to take the first steps in leveling the playing field. People have their head in the sand if they think teams win because they have great conditioning programs. Gimme a break. I favor any plan that keeps competitive sports balanced and fair. I like it.

 

I begg to differ on the teams having a greater conditioning program vs the ones who don't. Give you one GREAT example. Johnson Central was a BEAST last season. Big boys along the line, but not cardio balanced. Cov Catholic came rolling into with their small, quicker but athletic team and ran circle around the tired bigs. I can give you FT Highlands, Boyle Co, John Hardin example as well. We can level the field by " it's not about how bad you want it, it's about how HARD you're willing to work for it".

AMEN brother. Well said! I totally agree. It's how you sorround your program. Better position coaches, strenght and conditioning coach, make it MANDATORY for players to lift on and off season. So MANY programs I know do not implement that and those are the teams that ususally whine.

 

 

Legally (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but via the KHSAA, you can't technically make anything before July 15th mandatory.

 

With that said...I know several who impose the "So the offseason is optional, my so is the option on my end not to play you."

I begg to differ on the teams having a greater conditioning program vs the ones who don't. Give you one GREAT example. Johnson Central was a BEAST last season. Big boys along the line, but not cardio balanced. Cov Catholic came rolling into with their small, quicker but athletic team and ran circle around the tired bigs. I can give you FT Highlands, Boyle Co, John Hardin example as well. We can level the field by " it's not about how bad you want it, it's about how HARD you're willing to work for it".

 

I agree that hard work is a key factor...in anything. However, you named off traditional powerhouse programs. They are already established and that TRADITION feeds their success far more than any other factor. Do they work hard in the off-season? YEP. But I can name MANY others who work hard or harder but do not have the same type of kids taking the field. Hard work is only a fraction...still comes down to having players who can flat play. After you get those kids out, develop them, and lay the foundation. That's when you get success. You take a program with 60 kids who are just plain unathletic, it won't matter how hard they work. Will they improve...yes, but that does not always equate to success in wins/losses. Again, so much goes into success that you cannot say it's all one thing. You still have to have kids who are good football players...everything else is what gets them to achieve their potential. IMO

Legally (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but via the KHSAA, you can't technically make anything before July 15th mandatory.

 

With that said...I know several who impose the "So the offseason is optional, my so is the option on my end not to play you."

 

Correct. You cannot MANDATE any off-season work. But like you said...playing time is optional too!

I agree that hard work is a key factor...in anything. However, you named off traditional powerhouse programs. They are already established and that TRADITION feeds their success far more than any other factor. Do they work hard in the off-season? YEP. But I can name MANY others who work hard for harder but do not have the same type of kids taking the field. Hard work is only a fraction...still comes down to having players who can flat play. After you get those kids out, develop them, and lay the foundation. That's when you get success. You take a program with 60 kids who are just plain unathletic, it won't matter how hard they work. Will they improve...yes, but that does not always equate to success in wins/losses. Again, so much goes into success that you cannot say it's all one thing. You still have to have kids who are good football players...everything else is what gets them to achieve their potential. IMO

 

You said it.