I think the playoffs become more meaningful with a 6 team district. Scheduling could be a problem but you get better quality games with teams that are 'earning' a birth.

I would imagine that the original post was a baited question to start Oscar Meyer Baloney about the playoff or to start an argument. My own opinion is that they should go back to two more weeks of regular season and take only two teams from each district for the playoffs.

Edited May 6, 201412 yr by hoops5
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Expanded playoffs in ALL sports including HS seem to have more to do with the expansion of sports everywhere more so than trying to give everyone a trophy as many keep complaining about.

 

No team should get in the playoffs without a win. None. I don't care how many teams are in the district. Letting an 0-10 team play in the post season has nothing to do with expanding sports, and everything to do with more kids participating. When winless teams make the playoffs, it belittles the work put in by more successful teams. Why strive to be great if you're going to make the playoffs anyway?

No team should get in the playoffs without a win. None. I don't care how many teams are in the district. Letting an 0-10 team play in the post season has nothing to do with expanding sports, and everything to do with more kids participating. When winless teams make the playoffs, it belittles the work put in by more successful teams. Why strive to be great if you're going to make the playoffs anyway?

 

But the playoffs at this point aren't anything but an extension of the season, they aren't "Making anything" just playing the next game. I'd love to keep win less teams out of the playoffs, but do you do that at the expense of giving some teams and extra week to get healthy since the #4 they were to play was win less and didn't move on. I dunno, I got no problem of keep win less teams out just not sure how that would be set up.

 

You strive to be great to WIN, when you get to the post season!

 

Nobody is hanging banners for getting in the playoffs in KY, almost everyone does...it's about what you do when you get there.

No team should get in the playoffs without a win. None. I don't care how many teams are in the district. Letting an 0-10 team play in the post season has nothing to do with expanding sports, and everything to do with more kids participating. When winless teams make the playoffs, it belittles the work put in by more successful teams. Why strive to be great if you're going to make the playoffs anyway?

 

It doesn't belittle anything. Nobody views the first round of the playoffs, or even for that matter, the second round of the playoff's as a huge accomplishment. The best teams pretty much knock the losing teams out 99.9% of the time. Making the state championship is the goal whether there are 5 rounds of playoffs or two. And some poor kid who's on an 0-10 team isn't going to grow up to be a bad adult because he got an extra playoff game in. Some of these arguments seem to be more about teaching a kid a lesson than letting him play a football game. If by their senior year in high school kids haven't learned that hard work is important, then keeping a bad team out of the playoffs isn't going to fix that. IT'S A GAME. LET'S HAVE FUN:banana:

If you don't win AT LEAST half your games, you do not deserve to be in the playoffs. End of discussion, IMO. "Participation sports" and everybody getting a trophy should NEVER carry past entry level youth sports. This mentality is why there are so many issues with parents in middle and high school that get bent out of shape because Little Johnny isn't the star of the football team. Your kid sucks, and by giving him/her participation trophies their whole life, you have created a distorted view of reality.

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

Is there a "LOVE" button on this thing????

No disrespect, but I find the regular season to be extremely meaningful. I'm sure my sons did too when they played. Wanting to win every game regardless of the impact on the playoffs was meaningful to them. Plus winning the district games had a big impact on whether you stayed at home the first two playoff games. If we have to play CovCath in the playoffs, I sure like it being at Highlands, which means the regular season game against them is HUGE.

 

I respect everything you say on here, but you are talking about only one district game that means anything. Do the others on HHS' schedule really mean anything? And I think the definition of "meaning something" to the other poster has to do more with "earning your way in". Yes, the winner of the Cov Cath/HHS game can have meaning because or home field advantage, but the district play today doesn't keep a lousy team from making the playoffs. No matter how many teams you push through, the Cov Cath/HHS game would still be very meaningful. It always has been.

I thought this was the place where tough and controversial topics could be discussed? Excuse me if I am wrong. I just made this thread to see what everybody's opinion was, mine personally is that every team should be able to make it. I feel that is what is best for the kids. Raising them as winners creates a winning atmosphere for them in life. Just because they may lose in the first round (likely big sometimes) doesn't mean that they shouldn't get to make the playoffs. The kids will still play and find meaning to the regular season. Everybody wants a district championship.

 

"Raising them as winner" equals letting all of the teams in the playoffs. Winners earn their championships. I strongly disagree and think this is the problem. No offense at all, just a discussion. But if we hand out opportunities to kids, they will expect that in life. And life could not be more opposite. There are winners that earned their way there in everything we stand for. Work hard, do your best and it pays off. There are winners and losers in everything and both are life lessons. If you fall short, you must look in the mirror and ask yourself "how do I win next time". Do you think those kids are going to go to their first interview a couple years later and be prepared for rejection. I really don't get this "everybody has the right to experience success" mentality. NO YOU DON'T. Success is earned! And should be the ONLY reason to advance to a championship event in any sport! It's rediculous we even have to debate this!

I'm sure the topic has been debated to death and it will continue to be debated to death but I am new here and eager to discuss it. And as for raising the kids as winners, at least 0-10 teams can say they made the playoffs and had a chance to win. Regardless of how much better their opponent is, they still have a chance to pull a massive upset in the first round regardless!

 

They can say they made the playoffs, but are they proud they made the playoffs at 0-10? Is that really going to be a lasting memory and a story they tell their grand kids? I would bet that most 0-10 teams would prefer NOT to play in the playoffs...just wanting the season to end.

 

And the others have said it, we have hard core on both sides of this issue on this site. We all go at it pretty hard on this and other topics. But at the end of the day, I agree with PP92. This is a great site and no how heated some of the discussions get, I bet we'd all sit down and have a beer with each other any time we could.

Yup...agree with many points. Society's downfall has more to do with parents and their acceptance of their kids behavior far more than sports. I see parents who are best friends with their little Johnny...I wasnt "friends" with my dad (nothing wrong with loving the old man, but "buddies" we were not! LOL), I had a healthy fear of what would happen if I back talked my Mom, teacher, coach, neighbor...etc and the good Lord knows he never took my side when a phone call came home about my behavior. Sports, if anything, teaches the opposite. Regardless of how many games you play. With that, an 0-10 will not win a first round game...just ain't gonna happen. This ain't Hollywood and these aren't actors. 0-10=0-11. Simple math. I do think though, the extra week is a good opportunity for the coaches and players to do some fun stuff and make a tough season finish with some good memories and start building on the off-season, because there is no pressure for them to go win and they all know the outcome. Just my 2 cents.

 

Shouldn't that be what the other 10 weeks were for?

"Raising them as winner" equals letting all of the teams in the playoffs. Winners earn their championships. I strongly disagree and think this is the problem. No offense at all, just a discussion. But if we hand out opportunities to kids, they will expect that in life. And life could not be more opposite. There are winners that earned their way there in everything we stand for. Work hard, do your best and it pays off. There are winners and losers in everything and both are life lessons. If you fall short, you must look in the mirror and ask yourself "how do I win next time". Do you think those kids are going to go to their first interview a couple years later and be prepared for rejection. I really don't get this "everybody has the right to experience success" mentality. NO YOU DON'T. Success is earned! And should be the ONLY reason to advance to a championship event in any sport! It's rediculous we even have to debate this!

 

Yes and no...I will play devils advocate here.

Point: You said if we hand out opportunities in life they will expect that. Well, that's exactly how life works...everybody gets the opportunity, what they choose to do with that opportunity is eventually what determines their success. Why are the playoffs different?? We give opportunities in nearly EVERY arena in life. Life is often more about who you know, not how hard you work. This is a fantasy that we sell to young people, and there are a few exceptions to this...but the overwhelming rule is that you can work yourself to death...and never get anywhere in life. You get hired in MANY jobs in this country not by your resume, but by your last name, who your friends are, what school you attended...etc. Is the opposite true, sure...but let's be realistic. Last...how many kids stand on the sideline of a team that wins a championship and never contributes (except mom and dad's tuition check for example) to the success of the team. Sure some of them are scout team and actually help prepare the varsity...but I can think of many who are on a freshman team of 100 that don't get any clock in games, they go through drills, but they don't play, nor do they practice against the varsity to actually prepare them for any contest, and don't even dress on Friday night...but they get a ring for just showing up every day and doing a few drills before taking a knee for the rest of practice. In my book I don't call that earning, that is being along for the ride. Now with that said, I don't advocate that EVERY team should make the playoffs...but who and what constitutes "earning" success? What is the criteria? Many states use a point system to make the playoffs, and in those states you could win 7-8 games and not make the playoffs...were they not successful in winning 7-8 games?

 

Im just playing devils advocate here and mean NO disrespect to anybody, but I think we are putting a lot of emphasis on something that has nothing to do with the other (making playoffs vs success in life). Can sports help teach young people...ABSOLUTELY! But at the end of the day it's not the 3rd world war, governing policies are not decided, and life and death is not at stake. It's a game, played by kids...period. Maybe, just maybe, we are exaggerating this a little? Just saying.

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Shouldn't that be what the other 10 weeks were for?

 

No...conditioning and beating the fire out of each other in drills trying to win a district game is not the "fun" stuff I was referring to. LOL

Bottom line is - kids should be taught how to win until they hit the real world.

 

Thus, at least everybody makes the playoffs and if the bad teams lose then they lose. But at least they get equal opportunity.

Bottom line is - kids should be taught how to win until they hit the real world.

 

Thus, at least everybody makes the playoffs and if the bad teams lose then they lose. But at least they get equal opportunity.

 

Please explain how allowing everyone in the playoffs teaches a kid how to win. Also, you are basically saying that we should show kids a Utopian society and protect them from all failures until the real world actually punches them in the mouth and they wonder, 'wow! Why didn't anybody prepare me for that?' Kids need to learn lessons in life that will prepare them for the real world.

 

Every kid/team gets an equal opportunity to play 10 games. It is what you do with those 10 games that matters. You have to earn the 11th.

Bottom line is - kids should be taught how to win until they hit the real world.

 

Thus, at least everybody makes the playoffs and if the bad teams lose then they lose. But at least they get equal opportunity.

 

That's not equal opportunity. The district games during the season is already equal opportunity. Letting everyone in is changing the rules.

 

I don't know about you, but I've had enough change!