I wonder how many of us are getting caught up in the whole idea of what level a kid will play after high school, be it D1, D2 , D3 or even JUCO. We are very fortunate in this area (NKY) or even looking throughout the whole state, to have student/athletes that have the opportunity to continue their given talent in college all while earning a much more valuable education and possible on some form of scholarship. Be it paid for by their athletic ability or for their grades.

 

The facts that I read.

• There are 337 D1 universities that have 13 scholarships available to each team to be divided among the their players. Depending on how many current players on scholarship and how many that graduate/transfer there may not be many available to hand out each year. (DI colleges may offer full scholarships)
  

• There are 296 D2 universities that have 10 scholarships available to each team to be divided among the their players. Also depending on how many current players on scholarship and how many that graduate/transfer there may not be many available to hand out each year. (D2 colleges may only award funding for tuition, fees, and books)
  

• In D3 they are do not offer athletic scholarships to student/athletes directly for their particular sport. Which means either they attend these schools via their academic achievements, financial assistance/grants or on their own. (D3 colleges do not award any funding for athletics)
  

• For NJCAA (JUCO) schools I found it interesting that they can awards full and partial scholarships, or grant-in-aid awards, to talented athletes at its 525 member colleges. Eligibility requirements may vary by school.
  

 

In the end it comes down to these student/athletes getting the opportunity to continue their basketball careers while earning a more valuable education. Very few players have that ability to do something more with basketball after college and unless they have that education to fall back on they will create their own ceiling on what they will be able to do in the professional workforce.

 

So regardless of what level these young men accept scholarships at, I applaud them for continuing their education at a higher level all while playing the game they all love so much.

If a kid gets a chance to play after HS that is more than 90% ever will, congrats and good for them.

Is your point that we shouldn't be debating what level a kid can play?

You are forgetting NAIA.

I'm not sure what we are arguing but there are big differences and circumstances in the level of play at each division. I think it's fair to give opinions on where we feel a kid can play.

I'm not sure what we are arguing but there are big differences and circumstances in the level of play at each division. I think it's fair to give opinions on where we feel a kid can play.

 

Agreed. We all have opinions. This board is about opinions.

On the personal level it is great for a kid to get their college paid for and to have the opportunity to continue doing something they enjoy at the same time. Friends and family should certainly celebrate that for those players.

 

However I, as a basketball fan, am interested in what level a kid plays at. If I don't have a personal connection to someone, I will not follow their career at a D2, D3 or NAIA school and will probably never see them play after high school. I am, therefore, more interested in what kids will be able to play D1 basketball because there is a decent chance I will get to watch some of them on tv. I think it's great that Jackson Davis and Kelan Martin are headed to Butler, for example, because I typically get to see them play on a couple times every year.

I think he means that some look at kids as a failure if they don't make D-1 and any kid that gets a chance to move on and play shouldn't be knocked because of the level they move onto...only so many make D-1.

I applaud every kid who continues to play basketball after high school. Heck, as someone not good enough to play high school basketball, I applaud every kid who makes the time and effort commitment to play high school basketball. I think it is entirely fair to talk about at what level a player may play after high school because, while it is an accomplishment to play at any level, playing at the Division I level is more of an accomplishment than playing at some of the lower levels. However, in doing so, I hope we never lose sight of how wonderful basketball at the high school level can be.

Is your point that we shouldn't be debating what level a kid can play?

 

I have absolutely no problem when anyone gives the opinion of where a kid might play or what level you think they could play. We all do that and have fun at it. I just don't think its fair when it is stated like fact that this kid can go no higher because... There are plenty of websites that show the top recruits and where they rank and didn't think we had anyone from those list on here that could state what they thought as fact.

 

Really just wanted to see what others thought. Thanks

You are forgetting NAIA.

 

Very true and I'm glad I looked it up.. Learned something new. Thanks

 

NAIA schools tend to be smaller (there are nearly 300 member colleges and universities throughout the United States and Canada), with many located in the Midwest.

 

To be eligible for athletic scholarship funding from an NAIA school, students must have two of the following three criteria: have a minimum ACT score of 18 or minimum SAT score of 860, have a minimum 2.0 GPA, or have graduated high school in the top half of your graduating class. Few NAIA schools will offer full ride scholarships to athletes, but partial scholarships are more common.

 

While the NAIA may allow for a generous amount of funding per sport per school, it is up to the school to decide whether to fund scholarships in that particular sport.

I have absolutely no problem when anyone gives the opinion of where a kid might play or what level you think they could play. We all do that and have fun at it. I just don't think its fair when it is stated like fact that this kid can go no higher because... There are plenty of websites that show the top recruits and where they rank and didn't think we had anyone from those list on here that could state what they thought as fact.

 

Really just wanted to see what others thought. Thanks

I understand where you are coming from.

When posters make statements like "this kid can go no higher because......", keep in mind it is still their own opinion, whether or not you perceive that to be fair.

 

It's kind of like the annoying uncle at the Thanksgiving table that thinks he knows everything. Eventually everyone learns to just nod their head and say "uh huh". :lol2:

I wonder how many of us are getting caught up in the whole idea of what level a kid will play after high school, be it D1, D2 , D3 or even JUCO. We are very fortunate in this area (NKY) or even looking throughout the whole state, to have student/athletes that have the opportunity to continue their given talent in college all while earning a much more valuable education and possible on some form of scholarship. Be it paid for by their athletic ability or for their grades.

 

The facts that I read.

• There are 337 D1 universities that have 13 scholarships available to each team to be divided among the their players. Depending on how many current players on scholarship and how many that graduate/transfer there may not be many available to hand out each year. (DI colleges may offer full scholarships)
  

• There are 296 D2 universities that have 10 scholarships available to each team to be divided among the their players. Also depending on how many current players on scholarship and how many that graduate/transfer there may not be many available to hand out each year. (D2 colleges may only award funding for tuition, fees, and books)

• In D3 they are do not offer athletic scholarships to student/athletes directly for their particular sport. Which means either they attend these schools via their academic achievements, financial assistance/grants or on their own. (D3 colleges do not award any funding for athletics)
  

• For NJCAA (JUCO) schools I found it interesting that they can awards full and partial scholarships, or grant-in-aid awards, to talented athletes at its 525 member colleges. Eligibility requirements may vary by school.
  

 

In the end it comes down to these student/athletes getting the opportunity to continue their basketball careers while earning a more valuable education. Very few players have that ability to do something more with basketball after college and unless they have that education to fall back on they will create their own ceiling on what they will be able to do in the professional workforce.

 

So regardless of what level these young men accept scholarships at, I applaud them for continuing their education at a higher level all while playing the game they all love so much.

 

Incorrect. D2 can offer full tuition, fees, books, dorms and unlimited meal plan. Trust me on this one. :thumb:

Unlike D1, they are able to share their 10 Scholarships (give partials). Also some AD's allow the teams to get credit for academic monies that can help spread out the amount of kids that can play for free.

Incorrect. D2 can offer full tuition, fees, books, dorms and unlimited meal plan. Trust me on this one. :thumb:

Unlike D1, they are able to share their 10 Scholarships (give partials). Also some AD's allow the teams to get credit for academic monies that can help spread out the amount of kids that can play for free.

 

Good to know. Was just going from a site I thought knew. Thanks.

I applaud every kid who continues to play basketball after high school. Heck, as someone not good enough to play high school basketball, I applaud every kid who makes the time and effort commitment to play high school basketball. I think it is entirely fair to talk about at what level a player may play after high school because, while it is an accomplishment to play at any level, playing at the Division I level is more of an accomplishment than playing at some of the lower levels. However, in doing so, I hope we never lose sight of how wonderful basketball at the high school level can be.

 

I understand that you mean it is indeed a much greater task; however, I would say that the "height" of an accomplishment depends on the individual. For a kid who was cut as a freshman in high school playing D3 ball is a huge accomplishment and testament to the work (or growth spurt sometimes) of him and his family. Julius Randle playing D3 would not be as big of an accomplishment.