Yes it is bad!

Unless the parents sit in on every practice, see what the coaches see, understand the chemistry, understand the coaches philosophies, they should stay out of the coaches business. It should be up to the administration who does the hiring and firing of these coaches to better understand what is going on in the coaches minds. If a coach is that bad, shouldn't the ones that hire and fire him be held accountable as well? nobody ever blames the AD or principal for a bad hire. They always blame the coach.

 

In a perfect world I agree.

Usually right around the time the tuition bills start coming in and they start wondering why they spent those tens of thousands of dollars each year on camps, gas, hotel rooms, food, apparel, equipment, tournaments and "exposure" that landed their kid that partial scholarship to be on the JV team at Campbellsville.

 

6 foot white boys who can't jump out of the gym are DIII bound. And look around mom and dad, your kid is who I am talking about.

 

Skip to football. 10-15 kids in the whole state of KY get DI schollies every year. Your kid will probably not be one of them. But yeah, keep shopping your kid to Cooper, Corbin or Campbell County so he'll get noticed.

Watching youth football I have seen some crazy parents or should I say parents over react on coaches that volunteer their time to coach a group of kids for free.

 

Momma's are the worst.

Watching youth football I have seen some crazy parents or should I say parents over react on coaches that volunteer their time to coach a group of kids for free.

 

Decades old problem.

I disagree with any that say message boards make it worse.

 

All message boards do is expose the feeling that many have and are SAYING face-to-face with friends. Yes, it's easy to hide behind a username but that doesn't negate the fact that what is being posted on a message board is not CAUSING the issue. It's only making it easier for people to "hear."

 

Criticizing coaches has been around since the day sports started. I laugh when I hear "back in my day...." Come on. What makes it worse now is the advent of "club" sports and "camps" which give ignorant parents (ignorant in the ability to judge athletic ability) a false belief free college is forthcoming.

 

It's not message boards. It's false expectations.

I disagree with any that say message boards make it worse.

 

All message boards do is expose the feeling that many have and are SAYING face-to-face with friends. Yes, it's easy to hide behind a username but that doesn't negate the fact that what is being posted on a message board is not CAUSING the issue. It's only making it easier for people to "hear."

 

Criticizing coaches has been around since the day sports started. I laugh when I hear "back in my day...." Come on. What makes it worse now is the advent of "club" sports and "camps" which give ignorant parents (ignorant in the ability to judge athletic ability) a false belief free college is forthcoming.

 

It's not message boards. It's false expectations.

 

Agree 100%. The mercenary coach that will "make" your kid the next great thing is the problem. What parent would pay a coach to make their kid average. So those coaches "overstate" the kid's abilities to the parents. Then the HS coach does somrthing the merc coach doesn't agree with and the parents come down on the HS coach.

 

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Momma's are the worst.

 

No doubt, need a husband that won't let them open their mouths.

A lot of the problem is also that kids hear it at home and it follows them to practice. Like little Johnny's dad says he is better and should be starting over the other guy or the coach should throw more to you. Kids eventually go along with parents because it reinforces their ego.

Agreed, but the conflict is still there, at least for a while until reality sets in, which is usually later.

 

True, but I guess my point was the conflict most of the time in these scenarios is because of the parents and nothing the coach did or didn't do.

No doubt, need a husband that won't let them open their mouths.

 

Excuse me?

No doubt, need a husband that won't let them open their mouths.

 

When it came to the field or court, that's exactly right. My mom and dad both knew there were things that they obviously collaboartively decided, then there were things where yeah, one might give an opinion, but only one of them was making the decision.....and, the other knew their role.

 

For some reason, that's viewed as a bad thing.

 

Same way it is with my wife and I, there are certain things that I dare not question her about unless I want to look like an idiot and vice versa.

 

These momma's at LL are by far the worst, and it's not all of them by any means..nor close, but they absolutely flip their...um, crap over stuff.

 

I had one and her husband chase a ref off the field the other day, the husband said nothing; so I tried to be nice at first. "Ma'am, I need you to cool down just a little...lets drop it, we all make mistakes." (husband said nothing) To which she fired back at me, "You need to find some new refs. Ones that don't cheat for the other team (yeah, unique, huh?).", and some expletives in there as well (I still stayed calm for a few seconds afterwards), then....... She kept on at the ref as he was walking out, so after 1) Me trying to be nice and diffuse the situation 2) Her husband who probably fears for his life when it comes to her not saying anything after he had three seperate opportunities; I finally stepped in, and said some choice words to both of them follwed up by a promise (I have before) to call the cops with the next word.

Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Harry Doyle

A lot of the problem is also that kids hear it at home and it follows them to practice. Like little Johnny's dad says he is better and should be starting over the other guy or the coach should throw more to you. Kids eventually go along with parents because it reinforces their ego.

 

Bingo. The dad's are the problem running their mouth at the dinner table, and the momma's are the problem running their mouths at the games.

No doubt, need a husband that won't let them open their mouths.

 

I was at a college ballgame one time when this woman was ranting and raving, just something obnoxious, after about a quarter of it this older guy in front of me stood up...looked at her and her husband (another one of these guys that sat quiet probably fearing for his life anytime he was to speak up to her), and said, "Ma'am, if you don't shut up, you are about to get your husbands butt kicked." Obviously, he said it using another word, but I have never laughed so hard in my life.

 

And, guess what was heard from her the rest of the game? Crickets.

Excuse me?

 

Yes and sometimes a wife needs to tell her husband to shut his mouth. Bad thing is the way parents act in front of other parents is embarassing and they dont seem to care.

Its either them trying to show off, get attention, or show how stupid they can act. I guess all 3.

I have heard a story of a coach (I believe it was about Mac Whitaker from Harrison County) that used to have a coach-parents meeting before the season started. Basically he'd say that if a player OR his parents ever complained about playing time, how they were being used, etc., they were gone from the team. Right then and there. The story I heard talked about how that first year one of his better players was involved in such a situation (don't remember if it was the player or the parent complaining)...and he stuck true to his word, and they were gone. When the administration backed him up, it set a precedent and everybody else fell into line and knew not to screw around with these silly games from then on out.

 

If that's a true story, then I wish more coaches were backed up by their administration that way. If you want to talk about a coach's performance at the end of the season, that's fine. But, if you (as a school) have hired him to do a job, then let him (or her) do it their way. If more parents were worried about the repercussions of their big mouths, then perhaps they'd be more likely to keep them shut.