It would be bigger news if the KHSAA was not investigating Cordia.

 

To think that several D1 caliber athletes enroll in a school in the mountains of Eastern Ky by happenstance is burying your head in the sand.

 

I have no problem with a group of athletes playing together to improve their chances of college scholarships, or to get out of tough neighborhoods, etc. I do have a problem with the expectation to play against and be eligible for KHSAA sanctioned events. The KHSAA has rules and standards that should be enforced for the protection of all member schools. Before the question is thrown out there, yes I believe that other schools should be looked into also, but Cordia is the most blatant case right now since the axe has fallen on Fairview football.

 

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You would think there are better neighborhoods/schools within a 50 mile radius of their hometown. :idunno:

Heard it from someone who is more than just the average "man on the street". And before someone asks.....no I'm not naming them.

 

I am in no way just trying to "start some :poop:", I'm just curious if others might have heard the same thing from someone credible.

 

 

You have posted enough here to have credibility in my eyes and I respect your opinion. I don't know anyone investigating or the like for the KHSAA. I haven't heard of Cordia being investigated.

 

My post was more in response to the one I quoted in my reply, specifically the bolded "IF they played someone who was ineligible last season" and the attempt to draw analogies to Fairview.

 

If something on Cordia comes up from last year, I'll be surprised.

 

Here's the difference between the two situations to me: One is a private boarding school whose gotten transfers long before their basketball team was competitive so they should know the process (i.e., they had transfers before anyone called the integrity of their academics into question or offered opinions as to whether students grew up within a 50 or so mile radius when there were other schools that an outsider might perceive as better or more fitting for them means they shouldn't be given the opportunity they are getting) and the other is a small town public who got a kid from a traditional power from across the way.

 

Considering Cordia had to get an injunction to get two kids eligible last year, I'm guessing everyone they had who was pending an appeal for their eligibility was put under the microscope considering.

 

The injunction standard is fine and doesn't bother me. Like I've said before, it's the lay of the land in the post-Mitchell landscape. I just don't think it compares to the Fairview situation. That was the post I replied to and I know BigVMan23 knows I respect his opinion and I could talk sports with him all day, but gotta disagree on similarities between Cordia and Fairview. If you know differently, feel welcome to share when you are able and tell me how you told me so, I won't be bothered.

It would be bigger news if the KHSAA was not investigating Cordia.

 

To think that several D1 caliber athletes enroll in a school in the mountains of Eastern Ky by happenstance is burying your head in the sand.

I have no problem with a group of athletes playing together to improve their chances of college scholarships, or to get out of tough neighborhoods, etc. I do have a problem with the expectation to play against and be eligible for KHSAA sanctioned events. The KHSAA has rules and standards that should be enforced for the protection of all member schools. Before the question is thrown out there, yes I believe that other schools should be looked into also, but Cordia is the most blatant case right now since the axe has fallen on Fairview football.

 

For sure. Let's look to the leader of the pack. Remind me, who was that school that started this whole court injection thing by challenging the rules???

 

How heavy is the axe we are swinging again? I wonder how many schools can be chopped down in one fell swoop.

 

Those rowdy backwoods folks of EKY couldn't possibly offer a thing to anyone though right? Do you think they teach reading there? I'd really be amazed to think about what those unclothed could learn elsewhere.

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You would think there are better neighborhoods/schools within a 50 mile radius of their hometown. :idunno:

 

So if they are in the radius of Simon Kenton to Newport Central Catholic, they'd be fine right??? That's just a good school in a 50 mile radius with a couple of big ole' tall homegrown Kentucky boys to throw the ball to on the blocks.

 

Cross that 51st mile and you are asking for trouble though. Good thing those NKY boys don't go to a school like Model Academy for a better education, right? I mean, this is what it's all about, no?

 

For the record, I'm not challenging any transfers, I just wanted to make my point.

Don't know if this true or not, but I was told that Cordia is being investigated by the KHSAA. Has anyone else heard this, or is this just a rumor? With the Fairview "fiasco" that just got settled, I could see Cordia being on the KHSAA list.

 

Funny how there might have been a kid who was a good athlete and probably eligible at their "first choice" the whole time and then just decided to abandon their grades when they moved to the greener pastures of that new school. IF that had ever applied to anyone we MIGHT know, I'd wonder how that first school motivated them to stay eligible for so many years but the new one convinced them to drop that false act so quickly.

 

Don't know if this is true or not though.

 

See how this IF game works?

 

I'm just guessing that the original school was putting academics over athletics and told them honor roll or no jersey. Funny how that works.

 

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So if they are in the radius of Simon Kenton to Newport Central Catholic, they'd be fine right??? That's just a good school in a 50 mile radius with a couple of big ole' tall homegrown Kentucky boys to throw the ball to on the blocks.

 

Cross that 51st mile and you are asking for trouble though. Good thing those NKY boys don't go to a school like Model Academy for a better education, right? I mean, this is what it's all about, no?

 

For the record, I'm not challenging any transfers, I just wanted to make my point.

 

No, not at all. My point was, I find it very perplexing that kids come from Texas, Mississippi, Canada, etc....for a "better environment/education, to me something seems amiss.

 

Recently up in these "neck of the woods" we've seen it with kids takin' the Holmes, Holy Cross, Newport, Cincinnati route.

You have posted enough here to have credibility in my eyes and I respect your opinion. I don't know anyone investigating or the like for the KHSAA. I haven't heard of Cordia being investigated.

 

My post was more in response to the one I quoted in my reply, specifically the bolded "IF they played someone who was ineligible last season" and the attempt to draw analogies to Fairview.

 

If something on Cordia comes up from last year, I'll be surprised.

 

Here's the difference between the two situations to me: One is a private boarding school whose gotten transfers long before their basketball team was competitive so they should know the process (i.e., they had transfers before anyone called the integrity of their academics into question or offered opinions as to whether students grew up within a 50 or so mile radius when there were other schools that an outsider might perceive as better or more fitting for them means they shouldn't be given the opportunity they are getting) and the other is a small town public who got a kid from a traditional power from across the way.

 

Considering Cordia had to get an injunction to get two kids eligible last year, I'm guessing everyone they had who was pending an appeal for their eligibility was put under the microscope considering.

 

The injunction standard is fine and doesn't bother me. Like I've said before, it's the lay of the land in the post-Mitchell landscape. I just don't think it compares to the Fairview situation. That was the post I replied to and I know BigVMan23 knows I respect his opinion and I could talk sports with him all day, but gotta disagree on similarities between Cordia and Fairview. If you know differently, feel welcome to share when you are able and tell me how you told me so, I won't be bothered.

 

Thank you, and I fully respect yours.

Suppose someone at Cordia is doing nothing more but offering these kids who play basketball an opportunity at a new fresh start away from their current environment. Is that considered recruiting and is that against the rules? Especially if the school has dorms on campus like they I believe they do. This is against the rules? I'm asking because I don't know.

Just asking but do they pay tuition? Does Cordia get Public Funding from the Commonwealth? I would be more upset if no tuition was being paid and the Commonwealth is paying for the young men education. Just asking....

Something that I think is being overlooked in this whole "boarding school" debate as far as the distance some of these kids go is that one of the primary reasons some people send their kids to a boarding school is to move their kids into a drastically different environment.

 

Now, the reasons for this may differ:

 

For some, it may be getting away from a situation at home and creating a considerable distance from that situation (i.e., Person X has a kid and are worried about the friends they hang out with in their hometown of Lexington… does sending them to a boarding school in Richmond really create enough distance to accomplish their goals of getting them out of that "scene"?).

 

For others, it may be an attempt to get them to mature and/or prepare for college or just to experience a new and different environment where they learn about themselves. I have a good friend from Texas whose parents sent him to a boarding school in Tennessee. One reason for this was because it was probably a way for him to be a more independent person and come into his own. You know that when he got there, he was probably thinking, "well, it'll be a long way from home, so might as well forget about things like going home for the weekend or calling up Mom and Dad to swing by and do this or that for me").

 

Along those same lines, I'd analogize this to the reason why many kids who grow up in Lexington or Louisville would never think of attending UK or U of L unless they just had to because for them, it's too close to home and because of that, is somehow going to give them less of a "true college experience" than if they had went to a school with enough distance from home. Personally, I decided to go to graduate school somewhere further from home if I wasn't going to get into the program I wanted at UK (which I didn't). I could have went to surrounding schools like NKU, Dayton, etc., but instead, when it came down to it, and it was time to make my decision, I was deciding between schools in New Orleans, San Antonio, and Miami. My attitude was, "well, if I'm going to move, I'm really going to "move" and experience something new. I don't regret doing it like that, and honestly never have since I've made the decision.

 

Not saying what I did was better or worse, or that it would apply the same to everyone, just wanted to offer my perspective on why I can see why someone would think, "if I'm going to leave home and go through all the headaches, homesickness, etc., then I'm going to go big with it because "moving" isn't really going from, say, Lexington to Louisville when you know you are an hour away and everything is pretty similar.

Just asking but do they pay tuition? Does Cordia get Public Funding from the Commonwealth? I would be more upset if no tuition was being paid and the Commonwealth is paying for the young men education. Just asking....

 

 

Cordia gets both public and private funding. Don't know how much each player pays and don't really care. Some schools do work-study programs, some have private funds through local parishes or churches. KHSAA doesn't allow eligibility for those receiving athletic scholarships though. With all that said, I'd imagine that Cordia is very affordable, especially compared to other private and/or boarding schools (maybe even cheaper than some city/independent districts in Kentucky when you consider the big picture) and the kids who go there probably have fewer "State" tax dollars allocated to them than a kid at Knott Central or Perry Central.

 

If you are upset that the Commonwealth is "paying for young men's education", they you will probably be upset at a lot of schools, non-athletes included.

 

 

Educational funding isn't just State funding, local property taxes and Federal funding comes into play too. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that, in the grand scheme of things, the amount of tax revenue that someone who lives in say Paducah, that is allocated to a student at Cordia is pretty miniscule.

 

If I were venturing a guess, it's probably even offset by the amount of revenue brought into the area when people who would never otherwise go to a Cordia game go there, spend money at the gate of a regional tournament game (many regions split the gate revenues between schools… for example, when the Arena at Corbin got the opportunity to host the regional tournament, they offered a nice payout to each school in the region for that right) then on the way out, stop at a gas station or something similar where they spend money and pay sales taxes to local businesses.

I don't know whether I get upset or just think that people are unaware of how there comments can be perceived. I have read a lot of post and it is amazing how people without authority are quick to place judgment on Cordia, the Kids attending Cordia and even the community in some cases. Even when most of the team is ruled eligible there is still complaint. I am so glad systems are in place or we would be hung off of the opinion of one. Come on the system is working; kids can play now we mad cause of what????? It can't be recruitment if they are eligible. LET IT GO!!!! Cordia play Saturday chose to support or not. I truly hope that the community actions are not representative of the comments made by many of you or they might be scared or realized they are in a worst place than where they came. You are adults and how would you feel if your kids were in positions of many of these kids. HOW WOULD YOU AS A PARENT FEEL??????? I have seen many kids move to accomplish their goals and dreams? I know many parents who have said if I could do it over I would have moved my child? I'm sure your kids are all perfect and you helped them all to achieve there goals and dreams without moving them. How many of your kids could have gotten a better opportunity if you had sent them out of state or out of district? Or does the angry/ frustration stem from angry for not having thought of it first.

 

All I am saying is it obvious many of you have no clue as to what you are talking about just making assumptions and running with them and feeding them to others; find the truth before making everyone guilty.

 

IN THE END IT'S ALL GOD"s PLAN AND HIS WILL AND THAT's ALL THAT MATTERS. Please remember you are the adult let your actions and words reflect that you never know who you are influencing or who's watching.

No, not at all. My point was, I find it very perplexing that kids come from Texas, Mississippi, Canada, etc....for a "better environment/education, to me something seems amiss.

 

Recently up in these "neck of the woods" we've seen it with kids takin' the Holmes, Holy Cross, Newport, Cincinnati route.

 

When you have an excellent basketball program with a winning record at a top notch school, you attract transfers. Right? :lol2:

When you have an excellent basketball program with a winning record at a top notch school, you attract transfers. Right? :lol2:

 

If you win, they will come.

I don't know whether I get upset or just think that people are unaware of how there comments can be perceived. I have read a lot of post and it is amazing how people without authority are quick to place judgment on Cordia, the Kids attending Cordia and even the community in some cases. Even when most of the team is ruled eligible there is still complaint. I am so glad systems are in place or we would be hung off of the opinion of one. Come on the system is working; kids can play now we mad cause of what????? It can't be recruitment if they are eligible. LET IT GO!!!! Cordia play Saturday chose to support or not. I truly hope that the community actions are not representative of the comments made by many of you or they might be scared or realized they are in a worst place than where they came. You are adults and how would you feel if your kids were in positions of many of these kids. HOW WOULD YOU AS A PARENT FEEL??????? I have seen many kids move to accomplish their goals and dreams? I know many parents who have said if I could do it over I would have moved my child? I'm sure your kids are all perfect and you helped them all to achieve there goals and dreams without moving them. How many of your kids could have gotten a better opportunity if you had sent them out of state or out of district? Or does the angry/ frustration stem from angry for not having thought of it first.

 

All I am saying is it obvious many of you have no clue as to what you are talking about just making assumptions and running with them and feeding them to others; find the truth before making everyone guilty.

 

IN THE END IT'S ALL GOD"s PLAN AND HIS WILL AND THAT's ALL THAT MATTERS. Please remember you are the adult let your actions and words reflect that you never know who you are influencing or who's watching.

 

 

Yep. You nailed it.