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Joey Votto

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I'll bet you as much as you want that BP never hits 60 points higher with RISP than he does on an entire season if he plays close to a full season. You want to bet that?
He just did it so I'm not sure why you don't think it's possible. I don't bet so... Just proving the point again that math alone doesn't always work. The A's are a perfect example. Beane is one that does use the math and while they have had success they haven't been in a WS. That proves your theory of math working for a season but it doesn't win you championships.
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It's not my opinion. Hence, "everyone in baseball...". I hear it all the time on MLB Network, Baseball Tonight and read it in plenty of articles.

 

Those aren't my opinions.

 

The same guys that judge by eye that are being proven wrong time and time again. Here's an example of someone that didn't think Jocketty could adjust to the times:

 

Chairman and CEO Bill DeWitt Jr.'s visionary thinking transformed Cardinals | cardinals.com: News

 

They were right. Jocketty does deplete the system and sign guys to terrible contracts.

He just did it so I'm not sure why you don't think it's possible. I don't bet so... Just proving the point again that math alone doesn't always work. The A's are a perfect example. Beane is one that does use the math and while they have had success they haven't been in a WS. That proves your theory of math working for a season but it doesn't win you championships.

 

I know that if you don't get in the playoffs you can't win the WS. What the A's and Rays have done in the regular season with their limitations is pretty darn remarkable. It hasn't turned into a title yet but they have a vision and a plan that works and will work for years to come whereas the Reds went all in for 2013.

How many called 3rds did JV take this season looking for a BB?

 

I haven't seen that stat. If he isn't comfortable swinging at pitches why do you want him to?

I haven't seen that stat. If he isn't comfortable swinging at pitches why do you want him to?

 

No one would want him to, unless there are two strikes and the pitch is a strike. Surely you aren't suggesting he should watch a called third strike because he doesn't like the pitch???

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I haven't seen that stat. If he isn't comfortable swinging at pitches why do you want him to?

 

You'd rather he watch a third strike than swing at a pitch (that's a strike mind you) that he doesn't like?

You'd rather he watch a third strike than swing at a pitch (that's a strike mind you) that he doesn't like?

 

Me first....

You'd rather he watch a third strike than swing at a pitch (that's a strike mind you) that he doesn't like?

 

I'd rather not offer him my opinion on his approach to hitting.

Me first....

 

I know you guys are smart enough to know he doesn't choose not to swing only because he wants to walk. If he's fooled by a pitch or doesn't think he can hit it why swing?

I know you guys are smart enough to know he doesn't choose not to swing only because he wants to walk. If he's fooled by a pitch or doesn't think he can hit it why swing?

 

Right. But his approach with 2 strikes has to be different than 0 or 1 strike, regardless of how many balls he has.(pun intended)

 

What good could possibly come of taking a strike with 2 strikes? That's why he swings. Hit it into the 3rd base dugout and get another pitch. Baseball 101.

Most hitters on 3-1 or 2-0 counts will be sitting on a particular pitch and in a particular zone. If they don't get it, they tip their cap to the pitcher and just get ready for the next pitch. No one should be forced to swing on a hitter's count especially when it is the Pitcher at that point that is likely to leave a ball hanging...

Right. But his approach with 2 strikes has to be different than 0 or 1 strike, regardless of how many balls he has.(pun intended)

 

What good could possibly come of taking a strike with 2 strikes? That's why he swings. Hit it into the 3rd base dugout and get another pitch. Baseball 101.

 

Do you think you can let him know somehow that he needs to adjust with two strikes? Guarantee you he doesn't know that. You may be able to turn around his career.

The biggest question is this.

 

How old does he have to be before we stop calling him "Joey?"

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