Well, then, this just shoots to hell every argument against gun control. :lol:

 

How so?

What a hot topic.

I guess Rockmom was there. Funny how someone is so quick to jump to conclusions as long as the conclusion is against anyone in authority.

 

I'm asking questions. That's all. I think you are jumping to conclusions about me being against anyone in authority.

 

How so?

 

Because if a one of the arguments is that guns are needed for personal protection, but one is advised to holster or put down their gun if they encounter someone else with a gun....how can one use that gun for personal protection. I am just trying to figure out. It's not clear that he knew they were police. There are posters pointing out he should have dropped his gun when he encountered the police. However, from what little we do know, it seems there is a at least a fair chance he didn't. I didn't say the police were wrong. I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion the man acted inappropriately.

 

Which leads me again to the question....what would this conversation be if he had shot one of the police?

Because if a one of the arguments is that guns are needed for personal protection, but one is advised to holster or put down their gun if they encounter someone else with a gun....how can one use that gun for personal protection. I am just trying to figure out. It's not clear that he knew they were police. There are posters pointing out he should have dropped his gun when he encountered the police. However, from what little we do know, it seems there is a at least a fair chance he didn't. I didn't say the police were wrong. I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion the man acted inappropriately.

 

Which leads me again to the question....what would this conversation be if he had shot one of the police?

 

It's not too hard. If you are in your house and someone breaks in, you are not asked to holster your gun and let the perpetrator rob you or even worse.

 

It's not too hard. If you are in your house and someone breaks in, you are not asked to holster your gun and let the perpetrator rob you or even worse.

 

He was in his own yard? Or driveway?

According to a report I read last night, the family is claiming that he was in his garage (but there were no witnesses.) He went out to investigate barking dogs, not a burglar alarm. Opened garage door and advanced towards the police officers with the gun in his hand.

 

He was in his own yard? Or driveway?

 

He still allegedly pointed a gun at police. Doesn't matter where you are standing if you do that.

Victim's son:

"My father never stepped outside of his garage. He was shot multiple times in the chest only a few steps away from the doorway to his kitchen,"

Victim's son:

"My father never stepped outside of his garage. He was shot multiple times in the chest only a few steps away from the doorway to his kitchen,"

Eeek, that doesn't sound good if true.

Because if a one of the arguments is that guns are needed for personal protection, but one is advised to holster or put down their gun if they encounter someone else with a gun....how can one use that gun for personal protection.

 

I think you misinterpretted my post. I said, never approach anyone you don't know with a gun in hand. If the person is not a threat, holster your gun before approaching them. If the person is a threat, obviously don't approach them, if possible, seek safety/cover and assess the situation which may include using your firearm or fleeing. And call 911 as soon as possible.

I think you misinterpretted my post. I said, never approach anyone you don't know with a gun in hand. If the person is not a threat, holster your gun before approaching them. If the person is a threat, obviously don't approach them, if possible, seek safety/cover and assess the situation which may include using your firearm or fleeing. And call 911 as soon as possible.

 

I have more than once went out on my property carrying my gun after hearing strange noises or dogs barking. If your approaching me or in the general proximity on my property, you better identify yourself or I will consider you a threat and you may suffer the consequences.

 

I think you misinterpretted my post. I said, never approach anyone you don't know with a gun in hand. If the person is not a threat, holster your gun before approaching them. If the person is a threat, obviously don't approach them, if possible, seek safety/cover and assess the situation which may include using your firearm or fleeing. And call 911 as soon as possible.

 

Even after this expanded explanation, I don't see how one can say guns are personal protection, then espouse the philosophy you describe. And it goes against the posts I see consistently in other threads.

Victim's son:

"My father never stepped outside of his garage. He was shot multiple times in the chest only a few steps away from the doorway to his kitchen,"

 

Went back and looked at news video. The garage opens to the rear of the house. Unless the officers were in his back yard he was well outside the garage.

Even after this expanded explanation, I don't see how one can say guns are personal protection, then espouse the philosophy you describe. And it goes against the posts I see consistently in other threads.

 

Guns are personal protection when you cannot retreat, for example, attacked in your own home.