If I'm the baseball coach, none of my players would be missing baseball for spring football. Period. IMO Spring football is a chance to get a brief early start but its hardly a determinant on the outcome of the football season.

 

Geez, football starts early enough. Baseball players should ONLY worry about baseball in the spring.

If I'm the baseball coach, none of my players would be missing baseball for spring football. Period. IMO Spring football is a chance to get a brief early start but its hardly a determinant on the outcome of the football season.

 

Geez, football starts early enough. Baseball players should ONLY worry about baseball in the spring.

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Football has gone on fine for a long time without spring practice.

So the schools that start baseball "conditioning and open field" / (without instruction of course) in October is fine? I am not siding with one or the other. Coaches that work together find ways for each athlete to play any sport they choose to play. The "kids" have 4 years that they can NEVER get back so why deprive them of playing a sport they wish to play. Let them enjoy their high school career and if they are an athlete they will be seen in the sport that they excel in.

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Football has gone on fine for a long time without spring practice.

 

I'll disagree with the opinions of a lot of people I respect, but I think spring football is very important to the success of next season. It give the head coach and early opportunity to check different things and players out. It allows the coaches to make a lot of strategic decisions that affect what is done during the summer conditioning sessions and the before full contact practices. I think quality of high school football in Kentucky has improved considerably in part because of spring football. No one is telling any school they have to have spring football practice and if your football coach doesn't think it helps the team, he'd be stupid to have it, particularly if it harmed the other spring sports. Furthermore, he'd be stupid to go through the time and effort he and the other football coaches put into spring football if he wasn't convinced it helped a lot. Don't know many football coaches that don't think they already put in more than enough time (considering the low pay or no pay) without even taking into consideration spring football. So they must feel its very important.

I'll disagree with the opinions of a lot of people I respect, but I think spring football is very important to the success of next season. It give the head coach and early opportunity to check different things and players out. It allows the coaches to make a lot of strategic decisions that affect what is done during the summer conditioning sessions and the before full contact practices. I think quality of high school football in Kentucky has improved considerably in part because of spring football. No one is telling any school they have to have spring football practice and if your football coach doesn't think it helps the team, he'd be stupid to have it, particularly if it harmed the other spring sports. Furthermore, he'd be stupid to go through the time and effort he and the other football coaches put into spring football if he wasn't convinced it helped a lot. Don't know many football coaches that don't think they already put in more than enough time (considering the low pay or no pay) without even taking into consideration spring football. So they must feel its very important.

 

 

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So the schools that start baseball "conditioning and open field" / (without instruction of course) in October is fine? I am not siding with one or the other. Coaches that work together find ways for each athlete to play any sport they choose to play. The "kids" have 4 years that they can NEVER get back so why deprive them of playing a sport they wish to play. Let them enjoy their high school career and if they are an athlete they will be seen in the sport that they excel in.

 

 

You are exactly right, if the adults can't work together to make it an enjoyable experience for the kids then they are in coaching for the wrong reason and probably need to be removed form their position. Let the kid be a kid and have his fun reality will kick him in the face soon enough, don't make a kid make choices that are not necessary at this point in their lives. If you need spring practice as a depth chart organizer than you don't know much about your kids in the first place or you already know who you wan to play and might cheat a kid out of earning a spot in the summer and early fall.

Spring practice should be done away with and even the dead period in the summer. A coach can tell alot about a player thru out the summer weight and conditioning program. The kids should be able to play baseball without it getting in the way of football. Theres no way a football coach can come up with a starting line up during spring practice. Spring practice is fairly new to Ky. football. I don't see where the benefit is when a coach doesn't have a full team to work with in the spring practice.

Spring practice should be done away with and even the dead period in the summer. A coach can tell alot about a player thru out the summer weight and conditioning program. The kids should be able to play baseball without it getting in the way of football. Theres no way a football coach can come up with a starting line up during spring practice. Spring practice is fairly new to Ky. football. I don't see where the benefit is when a coach doesn't have a full team to work with in the spring practice.

Getting rid of spring practice would be the worst thing to do. If you think about it a kid that plays 4 years has 40 extra practices under his belt. This isn't a time necessarily to get a starting lineup together but instead to re-teach the fundamentals and get the basic scheme that each team runs installed back into the players mind, plus it is a welcome relief for these kids to finally get out of the weight room. It also benefits the lineman and not so skilled players (usually they are playing baseball) so the coach can work with them a great deal. Another sidenote is what if a coach has been thinking of moving someone to another position, well this is the perfect time to see if that would work out or not. If I recall correctly as well, right about the same time we started dominating UT in the All Star Game is the same time spring practice was allowed in KY. A good coach can get a lot out of the kids that don't play baseball during this timespan. If you feel it is a waste of your kids time then maybe you should evaluate your coaching staff because a good one will get the most of them. Plus it only makes sense that the least amount of kids out there will benefit because it allows more one to one contact with certain coaches, which equals more reps and more looks. This is where a senior who hasn't played much in 3 years may get his coaches attention, etc. Just remember 40 more practices. The benefits far outweigh the negatives, that is why the KHSAA has kept spring practice going, they know it is the right thing.

I'll disagree with the opinions of a lot of people I respect, but I think spring football is very important to the success of next season. It give the head coach and early opportunity to check different things and players out. It allows the coaches to make a lot of strategic decisions that affect what is done during the summer conditioning sessions and the before full contact practices. I think quality of high school football in Kentucky has improved considerably in part because of spring football. No one is telling any school they have to have spring football practice and if your football coach doesn't think it helps the team, he'd be stupid to have it, particularly if it harmed the other spring sports. Furthermore, he'd be stupid to go through the time and effort he and the other football coaches put into spring football if he wasn't convinced it helped a lot. Don't know many football coaches that don't think they already put in more than enough time (considering the low pay or no pay) without even taking into consideration spring football. So they must feel its very important.

 

JMO but you shouldn't make a child choose between one sport or the other while in season. Most coaches aren't going to allow a kid to go to spring football instead of baseball during baseball season. Also, if a coach tells a kid he can lose his position or gain a position in the spring...you're making him choose. You're problem is two fold. Lose a baseball player who doesn't want to jeopardize his football position or lose a football player who wants to play baseball. Doesn't seem like a good situation for the kid but again, that's JMO.

Spring practice should be done away with and even the dead period in the summer. A coach can tell alot about a player thru out the summer weight and conditioning program. The kids should be able to play baseball without it getting in the way of football. Theres no way a football coach can come up with a starting line up during spring practice. Spring practice is fairly new to Ky. football. I don't see where the benefit is when a coach doesn't have a full team to work with in the spring practice.

 

I'm not sure how new is "new" is "fairly new", but when I played back in the mid 70s, I'm pretty sure I had spring football. At some point it went away for a while, but I think its been back for 10 years or so, although I don't remember the exact date is started again.

 

And I'll disagree with you about how much a coach can tell about a kid without seeing him in pads, in full contact, particularly if you are trying kids in different positions than they played last year. If during spring football, it looks like the kid may not work out at the new position, the coach can make contingency plans. Then again, if the kid looks real good at the new position, the coach can plan on that kid playing that position.

 

At Highlands, most of the real contact is done in spring ball. Once full pads comes around in two a days, Highlands doesn't hit as much as they do in spring. The logic there, I guess, is if someone gets hurt in spring ball, they have all summer to heal. Whereas, if they get hurt in two a days, they might not have enough time to heal before the season begins. Don't get me wrong, they hit during two a days, but from my observations, they hit a lot more in the spring ball. And again, if the football coaches didn't think spring football was real important, a lot of them would not put in the time that it takes to organize, hand out equipment, coach the actual practices, collect the equipment and review the practice tapes. The coaches put a lot more into spring football than just the 10 practices and they must see some real benefit to the program. But if your school does not feel the same way, they don't have to do it. If your coaches can't work together, your school doesn't have to do it. But in no way should all schools be prevented from having spring football just because some schools can't pull it off.

I'm not sure how new is "new" is "fairly new", but when I played back in the mid 70s, I'm pretty sure I had spring football. At some point it went away for a while, but I think its been back for 10 years or so, although I don't remember the exact date is started again.

 

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It was not around in the late 70s/early 80s.

 

I'm pretty sure its only been back for a couple of years. I'm thinking the spring of 2003 maybe.

JMO but you shouldn't make a child choose between one sport or the other while in season. Most coaches aren't going to allow a kid to go to spring football instead of baseball during baseball season. Also, if a coach tells a kid he can lose his position or gain a position in the spring...you're making him choose. You're problem is two fold. Lose a baseball player who doesn't want to jeopardize his football position or lose a football player who wants to play baseball. Doesn't seem like a good situation for the kid but again, that's JMO.

 

 

So what you are saying then is that the one sport players should be deprived the opportunity to become better at the one sport because of the two sport players, right? Because having spring football puts some kids in a tough spot where they have to make a choice, we are to deprive other kids the opportunity to play spring football, right? We'll just have to agree to disagree my friend.

 

And I totally disagree that its wrong to put a kid in a position where they have to make a choice. Kids are forced to make choices every day. What classes to take. What colleges to go look at. Whether they want to play baseball, or run track, or play for the golf team. Even if you eliminate spring football, the kid still has to choose between baseball, track, golf, the drama club, whether to get a job working to buy a car. It goes on and on and on. If you want to play baseball because you like baseball, then play baseball. If because you missed out on two weeks of football you lost your starting position, chances are you weren't much better than the kid who beat you out anyway. Why should the kid who only wants to play football be held back from getting better just because some kid wants to play multiple sports? And if spring football isn't that important in improving as a football player and as a football team, as some have alleged, then I guess the fact that a kid chose baseball instead of spring football means the kid hasn't missed out on all that much if the logic holds true since spring football isn't all that important. And even if you lost your starting spot, you got to play baseball which you wanted to do, right? Should have no regrets. Once football starts up again in the summer, work your tail off and regain your starting position. No where is there a written rule that says all sports must be coordinated so the multi sport athlete gets to play every sport he wants. Nor should there be. Me, I have no lament that some people don't play multiple sports if they decide they would rather concentrate on the one sport they love. Its all about choice and if that's what they choose who are you and who am I to tell them they were wrong.

 

And there's no doubt about it, spring football helps develop better football players and better football teams. If a kid wants to play both sports and is good enough to do it, they will play both sports. I can name numerous players at Highlands that played football and baseball. There are some that choose football over baseball no doubt, but I think a lot of them like football more than they like baseball.

It was not around in the late 70s/early 80s.

 

I'm pretty sure its only been back for a couple of years. I'm thinking the spring of 2003 maybe.

 

 

Man, I sure recall playing a North vs South inter squad spring game in the spring of 75. Our team was pretty much "divided" between the rich kids in the north end and us poor kids in the south end. And it was a pretty bitter division. I know the coaches allowed us to play an intersquad game between the north and south and I can't imagine that they would have allowed us to do that during the two a days, but my memory may be wrong. And I thought it came back before 03.

So what you are saying then is that the one sport players should be deprived the opportunity to become better at the one sport because of the two sport players, right? Because having spring football puts some kids in a tough spot where they have to make a choice, we are to deprive other kids the opportunity to play spring football, right? We'll just have to agree to disagree my friend.

 

And I totally disagree that its wrong to put a kid in a position where they have to make a choice. Kids are forced to make choices every day. What classes to take. What colleges to go look at. Whether they want to play baseball, or run track, or play for the golf team. Even if you eliminate spring football, the kid still has to choose between baseball, track, golf, the drama club, whether to get a job working to buy a car. It goes on and on and on. If you want to play baseball because you like baseball, then play baseball. If because you missed out on two weeks of football you lost your starting position, chances are you weren't much better than the kid who beat you out anyway. Why should the kid who only wants to play football be held back from getting better just because some kid wants to play multiple sports? And if spring football isn't that important in improving as a football player and as a football team, as some have alleged, then I guess the fact that a kid choose baseball instead of spring football means the kid hasn't missed out on all that much if the logic holds true. And even if you lost your starting spot, you got to play baseball which you wanted to do, right? Should have no regrets. No where is there a written rule that says all sports must be coordinated so the multi sport athlete gets to play every sport he wants. Nor should there be. Me, I have no lament that some people don't play multiple sports if they decide they would rather concentrate on the one sport they love. Its all about choice and if that's what they choose who are you and who am I to tell them they were wrong.

 

And there's no doubt about it, spring football helps develop better football players and better football teams. If a kid wants to play both sports and is good enough to do it, they will play both sports. I can name numerous players at Highlands that played football and baseball. There are some that choose football over baseball no doubt, but I think a lot of them like football more than they like baseball.

 

No way those kids suffer. HHS' has one fifteen state championships and put how many kids into college for football without spring practice? I'm against punishing a kid because you want to practice football during another sports season. Yeah there's a choice but to make these kids give up one does nothing but hurt the other sports. There are plenty of kids that would help baseball that don't play and plenty of kids that would help football that don't play and all of this is because of spring football practice. Just not sure why you'd deprive other sports of athletes when it's possibly hurting yourself also.

 

I understand your point and honestly was expecting you to have that point of view (meathead ), I just don't agree.

No way those kids suffer. HHS' has one fifteen state championships and put how many kids into college for football without spring practice? I'm against punishing a kid because you want to practice football during another sports season. Yeah there's a choice but to make these kids give up one does nothing but hurt the other sports. There are plenty of kids that would help baseball that don't play and plenty of kids that would help football that don't play and all of this is because of spring football practice. Just not sure why you'd deprive other sports of athletes when it's possibly hurting yourself also.

 

I understand your point and honestly was expecting you to have that point of view (meathead ), I just don't agree.

 

 

Not feeling the love SM :banana: ; not feeling it at all. We'll just disagree about a lot of things in your last post ( but probably can't agree with your assertion that I'm a meathead however, dang it. But for the record, at least this meathead knows when to spell the word "won" and when to spell it "one").