Can you point out where I said I'm smarter than the United States? :lol:

 

You're too young and sheltered to see the big picture at this time. I didn't particularly care for the fuzz when I was your age either. Perhaps I'm being hypocritical.. Have a Merry Christmas BM!

Wow. Rocket, I understand the fact that you are a homer in this instance and you feel as if you should have more credibility than the average college student. Granted, I know you didn't say that, but that is the vibe I am getting so don't put a :lol: face and ask me where you stated that. It is obvious. I have to back up BM in this instance. For you to have never seen any of this, where are you getting your credibility from? I have total respect for the law and know that without the law, our nation would be ruined and in shambles. On the other hand, I have lived it. I am sure you lived it too in 1950, but times are different. I could cite many examples of how I have been mistreated by the cops of Lexington. Then why aren't all of these cops suspended you may ask??? The answer is because all kids don't carry video cameras and use them when they should be. I am going to cite just a couple of examples and you tell me where I was in the wrong. I very much could have been in the wrong, but I just need some reassurance to settle my mind.

 

A) Myself, two of my roommates, and 2 neighbors were sitting outside watching TV as Bruce hit the walk off home run a few years back to clinch the central. It was the middle of the week. (I do not recall which day) Three police officers show up during the game and tell us they have received a complaint from our neighbors for excessive noise. A few people were drinking (some 21 and some not) and the police obviously started to get on our case immediately about the 4 empty beer cans on the table we were sitting around. When asked who called in the noise complaint, they simply said they could not tell us. Jokingly, I stated that it must have been our next door neighbors and pointed to the house. (Two of the neighbors were with us on the porch) The officer proceeded to laugh and say "how did you know, they call us weekly on you guys." At this point we all started laughing knowing that they are there for zero reason at all and showed up on a whim. They then asked for everyone's ID. Reluctant to give up their ID's as most college kids are, no one did anything. They then proceeded with the hilarious threats you guys (yes, I am generalizing "you guys" as all cops) use to get people to do something. Myself and one neighbor decided to give them our ID's. I was not drinking and I got a ticket for minor in possession of alcohol. I had zero drinks. Everyone who gave up their ID's got a ticket. In the middle of the week. For doing nothing wrong. When asked about the possession charge he aggressively told my neighbor "If you don't shut the F*** up, your A** is going to be paying a bond as well. Hilarious. How am I supposed to stop my legal roommates from drinking beer? Can I not sit with them in the presence of alcohol? Long story short, I got a fairly big fine, had to go to court, and work 20 hours at goodwill that could have been spent studying or doing something to better myself.

 

B)While playing a friendly game of Mario Kart on a Friday night while pregaming, a group of officers kindly present themselves at our door. They knock and I show up at the door and ask them if I can help them with something. They give us the run around about why they are there and ask to come in. I refuse and sit back down to start playing my game that was rudely interrupted by the Lexington authority. The officer then proceeds to walk inside the house and ask who lived there. Stunned, no one owns up to it. We all get tickets for alcohol and cited again. When asked questions about his authority, he answered with "because I asked you." If you can't give a better reason to search the house than "because I asked you," then you are clearly there for no reason. He violated all of our rights by walking into MY HOUSE. No alcohol was in plain site, unless you count a red solo cup as alcohol which Lexington police officers do.

 

*** If undercover police officers want to roll around Keeneland while people are pregaming before the races and ask for ID's, thats perfect. They are doing nothing wrong and were simply doing their job. You were drinking underage before the races doing something completely illegal. Tough. I understand that. It is the way they go about it in Lexington, so don't try to rationalize with us because your some small town cop. Ask anyone who has lived in the college area of Lexington and they will agree. You simply do not understand because you have never lived it. Admit that to me please. You are going off what you and some of your colleagues have seen. I could go on for days with stories like these. It happens a lot! When students start to realize the camera is a good idea, run-ins like these will start to decrease. I could almost bet that they will slow down now because of this kid. As much as you hate to believe, some people know their rights and will not be walked all over by ****** like Lexington Police. Anyone who has lived in Lexington in college areas (ie. State Street, University Ave, Waller Ave. ect. ) care to confirm?

I'll say this, it's hard for me to judge your story based on one side of the story. Second I'm not a small town cop.

 

What do you want me to confirm? I don't live in Lexington, I can confirm that.

 

And for the record 1950 was 11 years before my mother was born, but nice try. And yes I'll give the benefit of the doubt to people I know instead of 2 anonymous faces from a message board. I'll start to ask friends who went to UK, all within 10 years and see what there thoughts were on UKPD. Fortunately I don't have to work for a college PD and have to put up with pompous drunk college kids.

 

But, wouldn't it be fair to say that you're bias yourself?

You mean to tell me that his foot would have stopped them even if they wanted in?

 

And weren't they allowed to enter the room according to the school? I thought they could enter, but they could not search anything. I don't really remember where I read that so I could be wrong.

 

I looked that up and posted it somewhere earlier in the thread. University administrators are allowed to enter the room without a warrant and can do a general inspection of the room but not conduct a search. In other words anything that they would cite someone for would have to be in plain sight. The officers are considered University administrators and had the right to come in the room as long as they were acting as University administrators. If they wanted to perform a legal search as police officers they had to have a warrant or permission. They even make it a point to mention that they are there as University administrators in the video. He only went over the line when he pushed the kid in his room and opened the fridge without a warrant or permission. For that, no matter whether he was baited or not, he deserved to be disciplined and honestly I can see why he was fired--university police or not.

I'll say this, it's hard for me to judge your story based on one side of the story. Second I'm not a small town cop.

 

What do you want me to confirm? I don't live in Lexington, I can confirm that.

 

And for the record 1950 was 11 years before my mother was born, but nice try. And yes I'll give the benefit of the doubt to people I know instead of 2 anonymous faces from a message board. I'll start to ask friends who went to UK, all within 10 years and see what there thoughts were on UKPD. Fortunately I don't have to work for a college PD and have to put up with pompous drunk college kids.

 

But, wouldn't it be fair to say that you're bias yourself?

 

See that's my biggest problem with his reaction and why I feel like his firing was justified and probably necessary. You have to have a special temperment to deal with college kids and he obviously didn't have it. This time he just pushed the kid and illegally searched his room. Who's to say that if he got called back to that same kid's room next semester he wouldn't crack him in the teeth with a night stick if he got mouthy? He obviously knew he wasn't supposed to be doing what he did this time. You could tell that by his reaction when he found out that he had been recorded. This time he lost his temper and only looked in a fridge...Next time he might have hurt someone.

See that's my biggest problem with his reaction and why I feel like his firing was justified and probably necessary. You have to have a special temperment to deal with college kids and he obviously didn't have it. This time he just pushed the kid and illegally searched his room. Who's to say that if he got called back to that same kid's room next semester he wouldn't crack him in the teeth with a night stick if he got mouthy? He obviously knew he wasn't supposed to be doing what he did this time. You could tell that by his reaction when he found out that he had been recorded. This time he lost his temper and only looked in a fridge...Next time he might have hurt someone.

 

All valid points, I'd be curious to know if he's got a history of this type of stuff or if it was an isolated incident.

All valid points, I'd be curious to know if he's got a history of this type of stuff or if it was an isolated incident.

 

Me too. If not I could see putting him in a job where he was working a desk and having him go to counseling/training instead of dismissing him.

Best thing any officer can do is keep calm and not take stuff personal.

 

Isn't that what the UK Police Officer didnt' do? Which is why he was removed from his position, because he lost his cool and violated the student's privacy rights?

I'll say this, it's hard for me to judge your story based on one side of the story. Second I'm not a small town cop.

 

What do you want me to confirm? I don't live in Lexington, I can confirm that.

 

And for the record 1950 was 11 years before my mother was born, but nice try. And yes I'll give the benefit of the doubt to people I know instead of 2 anonymous faces from a message board. I'll start to ask friends who went to UK, all within 10 years and see what there thoughts were on UKPD. Fortunately I don't have to work for a college PD and have to put up with pompous drunk college kids.

 

But, wouldn't it be fair to say that you're bias yourself?

 

At least you know your position. I could not handle college kids either. I don't think I could be a regular cop either though. I would say that I am partially biased to Uk police, not all university police. I am not sure if you could consider it bias though if it is a fact. Look at your location under your name handle. It says it all about being a troll. I think you are just trying to get people rowdy.

 

I'll start to ask friends who went to UK, all within 10 years and see what there thoughts were on UKPD. Fortunately I don't have to work for a college PD and have to put up with pompous drunk college kids.

 

 

I know many people that have a negative opinion of Lexington / UK Police, myself included.

And apparently I make this stuff up.......

I know many people that have a negative opinion of Lexington / UK Police, myself included.

 

I'll second that. Not saying they're all bad, but the few that I've encountered went way over the top.

I know many people that have a negative opinion of Lexington / UK Police, myself included.

They have an often deserved reputation.

 

When I lived off Tates Creek we did have a really cool cop who patrolled our area. But, he liked to come to our parties a lot...

*note to self, party in Louisville

*note to self' date=' party in Louisville [/quote']

 

That's an awesome plan. Louisville nightlife is infinitely better.