December 11, 201213 yr There's a video going around (see it on KSR) of a UK student who refuses to let UK police enter his dorm room without a warrant. Warning: The kid is completely out of line and disrespectful and uses language that some will be offended by. For those in the know, do college police need a warrant to enter a dorm room?
December 11, 201213 yr I would assume you'd need a warrant, but don't know for sure. Haven't watched the video, but assuming the kid is right and they need a warrant, how is he out of line by not allowing them to search the room?
December 11, 201213 yr Author I would assume you'd need a warrant, but don't know for sure. Haven't watched the video, but assuming the kid is right and they need a warrant, how is he out of line by not allowing them to search the room? I meant he was out of line in the way he acted and talked to them. I didn't mean he was out of line for demanding a warrant. He may be correct, thus, the question.
December 11, 201213 yr If a landlord gives the police permission to enter a house he is renting to someone, can they enter if the resident says no? I'd think the landlord's wishes take precedent over the resident's, but I'm not entirely positive.
December 11, 201213 yr I meant he was out of line in the way he acted and talked to them. I didn't mean he was out of line for demanding a warrant. He may be correct, thus, the question. Fair enough. However, if the cops are attempting to do something that is illegal (searching his room without a warrant), what is the proper way for him to act?
December 11, 201213 yr Author Fair enough. However, if the cops are attempting to do something that is illegal (searching his room without a warrant), what is the proper way for him to act? There are a lot of ways. The kid chose none of them. Be firm. Say they have to have a warrant. Be respectful.
December 11, 201213 yr Obviously the kid is a disrespectful little punk but he might be will within his rights. P.S. - the comment section on that video is a sad sad place. I like to believe humans like that don't exist.
December 11, 201213 yr Author Obviously the kid is a disrespectful little punk ( I hope someone kicks his teeth in) but he might be will within his rights. The former is true. The latter is the big question.
December 11, 201213 yr There are a lot of ways. The kid chose none of them. Be firm. Say they have to have a warrant. Be respectful. Since I haven't seen the video, I can't say if he's out out line, but say you take the "respectful" or "firm" approach and the cops get attitude with you and force their way into the room. Now what? Kid was respectful, but his rights are still violated, and we all know nothing would be done to the officers.
December 11, 201213 yr Author Ohio v Ellis seems to say a warrant would be required at a public university. Dorm Room Searches
December 11, 201213 yr Here is the rental agreement if anyone feel like looking through the fine print.. http://www.uky.edu/Housing/undergraduate/pdfs/F13-S14_Housing_App.pdf
December 11, 201213 yr Author Since I haven't seen the video, I can't say if he's out out line, but say you take the "respectful" or "firm" approach and the cops get attitude with you and force their way into the room. Now what? Kid was respectful, but his rights are still violated, and we all know nothing would be done to the officers. If they force their way into your room, you would seem to have two choices. Fight them and risk injury or let them proceed and then challenge their authority later.
December 11, 201213 yr If a landlord gives the police permission to enter a house he is renting to someone, can they enter if the resident says no? I'd think the landlord's wishes take precedent over the resident's, but I'm not entirely positive.No, the renter has final say.
December 11, 201213 yr Since I haven't seen the video, I can't say if he's out out line, but say you take the "respectful" or "firm" approach and the cops get attitude with you and force their way into the room. Now what? Kid was respectful, but his rights are still violated, and we all know nothing would be done to the officers.If they "forced" their way into a room, it's because they have the right to do so. As for this particular situation, I "think" dorms are considered university property, and therefore, subject to search at any time.
December 11, 201213 yr Author If they "forced" their way into a room, it's because they have the right to do so. As for this particular situation, I "think" dorms are considered university property, and therefore, subject to search at any time. Ohio v Ellis court disagrees.
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