No, the renter has final say.

 

Interesting... Thanks for informing me. I honestly did not know that.

Fair enough. However, if the cops are attempting to do something that is illegal (searching his room without a warrant), what is the proper way for him to act?

 

Watch the video UKMF, he was very out of line from the very beginning.

Watch the video UKMF, he was very out of line from the very beginning.

 

I can't from work.

Ohio v Ellis seems to say a warrant would be required at a public university.

 

Dorm Room Searches

So, the kid tells them he wants to see a warrant, and these officers decide to barge in and search anyway, all on video. Hmmm.

If they "forced" their way into a room, it's because they have the right to do so.

 

So if the law states that they need a warrant (and according to Clyde's earlier post that appears to be the case) and still forced their way into the room without one, it's because they have the right to do so?

 

That's just complete ignorance.

So, the kid tells them he wants to see a warrant, and these officers decide to barge in and search anyway, all on video. Hmmm.

 

Yes.

 

Their argument was they are "university administrators" so they didn't need a warrant.

 

My guess is that's not how a court would view them.

I lived in the dorms at Northern and I was under the impression that Hall Directors (not Residential Assistants), as well as the Dean of Students had the administrative right to search a room and no warrant was needed. I'm not sure how they treated University Police. I could be wrong but that is the way it was presented.

 

We had our room searched once because of our roommates was being removed from school for various reasons. In his back room (which he lived in alone) he had all kinds of alcohol bottles. No warrant was presented, but I also didn't know any better to challenge them (nor did I have a reason too) and just let them in because I had nothing to hide and knew the Dean well.

I also thought it was interesting how the one cop said he would make sure he got the kid kicked out of school.

So, the kid tells them he wants to see a warrant, and these officers decide to barge in and search anyway, all on video. Hmmm.

 

And then didn't even find anything. Not that they did a thorough search, but it was evident that they at least looked in his fridge and aroudn his room a little.

When I stayed in the dorms at UofL we had our rooms searched a few times. They would sound an alarm, the student would all have to leave, then RA's would do a walk through. They weren't allowed to open anything though. Also, they came through with drug dogs a few times. I think it was part of some sort of agreement that the students in the dorm had to sign to live there.

Yes.

 

Their argument was they are "university administrators" so they didn't need a warrant.

 

My guess is that's not how a court would view them.

They may have figured "Who do you think UK will believe? Us or you?" They only came into the room when he told them off one final time (still within his rights to say as he wishes). The kid asked a few times how they willl have him kicked out. This will be interesting to see this pan out since they entered when told not to, and searched, all on video.

I also thought it was interesting how the one cop said he would make sure he got the kid kicked out of school.

 

More than likely just an empty threat. I'm sure he will have a report to the Dean of Students and the Director of Housing. Whether they needed a warrant or not, it appears that they didn't find anything and the kid can't be kicked out of school for being a _____ (fill in the blank). However, I wouldn't be surprised if his stay in residential housing will be ended. Either way, this is going to be a big headache for all involved I bet, including the kid.

RA's would do a walk through. They weren't allowed to open anything though.

 

RA's would do the same at Northern on a monthly basis usually (unless yours just said they did). They had to knock, if there wasn't an answer, they had to announce they were entering. They did their basic search, also not allowed to open or move anything. However, if a Hall Director wanted to do an Administrative search, it was a whole different ball game.

I lived in the dorms at Northern and I was under the impression that Hall Directors (not Residential Assitants), as well as the Dean of Students had the administrative right to search a room and no warrant was needed. I'm not sure how they treated University Police. I could be wrong but that is the way it was presented.

 

This was my understanding as well, except I always assumed University Police had to follow the same protocol as normal cops.

P.S. - the comment section on that video is a sad sad place. I like to believe humans like that don't exist.

I try very hard not to read comment sections, actually wish they didn't exsist, I have read horrible things on articles concerning people who died or where killed, so nothing surprises me anymore on them, sad!