And yet you continue to aim your flawed arguments at me. Yet countless folks continue to tell you the same. Face it. Your wrong.

 

And you keep completely missing my point. Until you can tell me how schools like Danville, Mercer County, Boyle County, Lexington Catholic, Covington Catholic, Mayfield, Beechwood, Newport Central Catholic, Lexington Christian, Bowling Green, Warren Central, Warren East, Highlands, Highlands, Highlands, and many more continually beat schools with larger enrollment than them then I will never understand your point. Go check Boyle County's record against Henry Clay and get back to me. I'd love to know why a school like Henry Clay with more kids and better athletes only has 1 or 2 wins against a rural public school with a smaller enrollment.

And I provided you numbers of the largest enrollment schools against the lowest. We saw a dynamic difference in records. Same

Wit every single class. Your argument is flawed. Size matters. As does substance. As does rules to abide by.

 

Check the top 10 schools of lower classes against any school in 6A not named Trinity or St. X and get back to me.

Question for Ohio people.

 

How do the larger schools in Ohio do against the lesser schools? Here in Kentucky the better smaller schools can defeat the #4 team from 6A and it won't be an upset. Can the better smaller schools in Ohio defeat a top 10 larger school and it not be an upset?

Substance. Not size. Substance.

And you keep completely missing my point. Until you can tell me how schools like Danville, Mercer County, Boyle County, Lexington Catholic, Covington Catholic, Mayfield, Beechwood, Newport Central Catholic, Lexington Christian, Bowling Green, Warren Central, Warren East, Highlands, Highlands, Highlands, and many more continually beat schools with larger enrollment than them then I will never understand your point. Go check Boyle County's record against Henry Clay and get back to me. I'd love to know why a school like Henry Clay with more kids and better athletes only has 1 or 2 wins against a rural public school with a smaller enrollment.

 

You can't lump private and independent programs in with the publics. Schools whose have revenue drivers that are derived from sports success completely dwarf enrollment size as a success factor.

 

You can't lump private and independent programs in with the publics. Schools whose have revenue drivers that are derived from sports success completely dwarf enrollment size as a success factor.

 

BINGO!!!!

So why does Danville have 10 state championships and Boyle has 7? Size doesn't matter.

 

That's completely invalid to say.... The reason Danville has 10 and Boyle has 7 is obviously Boyle is in a higher class. Enrollment makes 100% the difference, as if Danville was in 4A/5A let's see how many titles they'd still have. Let's be honest, talent goes to schools with a tradition of being good, and schools that are state title winners year in and year out are going to get those kids. It's like college football, if a kid is offered by Alabama, and offered by Kent. St. where do you think the kid is going to go? Don't answer that please. The fact of the matter is, all the kid has to do is move to where the school is in the district and they enroll, and be apart of the success. If that's not evident with all these great athletes, I don't know what is. Even Mike Mitchell's attempt to go to HHS. There's nothing wrong with it unless you're the school in the district in which the kid moved from, but they're just putting themselves in the best situation. But to say enrollment is overrated or has no say is just pure ignorance, because Tradition brings talent, talent brings enrollment, and enrollment brings $ which means upgraded facilities, and much more.

You post the question. Does Enrollment size matter? The answer is a resounding yes. Does it matter that you can select your 100 football players from 1400 males or from 500 males. You do the math. What are the odds in finding the better group of players????? Or is it that you believe that the best athletes and football players simply are born in Ft Thomas and in Louisville??? More inaccurate assumptions. Having a larger pool to choose from obviously "matters"....

We have a 3A level school. How that implies that we have a size advantage is a real mystery. :idunno:

We have a 3A level school. How that implies that we have a size advantage is a real mystery. :idunno:

 

This is false. Highlands is not playing up. They are a 4A school per enrollment numbers.

We have a 3A level school. How that implies that we have a size advantage is a real mystery. :idunno:

 

Birdsfan, since you are here, just out of curiosity does HHS have a dependency on open enrollment tuition revenue?

This is false. Highlands is not playing up. They are a 4A school per enrollment numbers.

 

And they beat the #3 team in 6A by 50.

You can't lump private and independent programs in with the publics. Schools whose have revenue drivers that are derived from sports success completely dwarf enrollment size as a success factor.

 

BINGO!!!!

 

Which is why size doesn't matter. Boom. Or BINGO!!!!

 

 

 

Size doesn't matter.

I say no. Every year Highlands bucks that belief by putting out a top notch team every single year and is one of the smaller 4A schools in the state. And not just Highlands. 4A is littered with schools that would defeat over 85% of the 5A and 6A schools. Some seem to believe that Trinity and St. X are better than everyone else because of their size. I say hogwash. I say football programs are built to be successful regardless of their enrollment. Using the theory that bigger is better means that if Highlands had Trinity's enrollment then they would be the best high school football team ever in the history of high school football.

 

Here's what I would say...the sysytem has a lot to do with it. Highlands does well because they put a lot of time and effort and gain buy in throughout the community. That is where it starts. However, where there is depth because of numbers, that is absolutely an advantage. HHS has kids 185 playing on their D line at times. If they are as good as everyone thinks, imagine if they were putting 250 plus on their lines and backfilling them in a platoon system with 250 pound kids. Since they platoon now (and that is the only way they can hang with the big boys), their depth comes from small kids because of the lack of the amount of boys to choose from. If they had other big kids in the school, they would develop them, but they don't. Law of average tells you you're only going to have so many big kids. At HHS, you have to pick and choose where to use the bigs kids!

 

Now you take T or X and add a good system with number of kids and you have at Trinity, St X, Elder, Moeller, Cincy St X, etc and you get the type of teams theses schools produce year in and year out. The reason other big schools aren't good is because of the system.

 

So I would say small schools that buy into being good and staying dedicated will always beat larger schools that don't care as much or don't have the kids dedicated to football. But if all things were equal and every kid and school had the exact same system and great coaches, YES, SIZE WOULD MATTER! The teams with the most resources would win the majority of the time.

And they beat the #3 team in 6A by 50.

 

Does SC have any US senators send their grandchildren there to play football? How about sons of NFL hall of famers??? Proximity to an urban center is a major factor.

That's completely invalid to say.... The reason Danville has 10 and Boyle has 7 is obviously Boyle is in a higher class. Enrollment makes 100% the difference, as if Danville was in 4A/5A let's see how many titles they'd still have. Let's be honest, talent goes to schools with a tradition of being good, and schools that are state title winners year in and year out are going to get those kids. It's like college football, if a kid is offered by Alabama, and offered by Kent. St. where do you think the kid is going to go? Don't answer that please. The fact of the matter is, all the kid has to do is move to where the school is in the district and they enroll, and be apart of the success. If that's not evident with all these great athletes, I don't know what is. Even Mike Mitchell's attempt to go to HHS. There's nothing wrong with it unless you're the school in the district in which the kid moved from, but they're just putting themselves in the best situation. But to say enrollment is overrated or has no say is just pure ignorance, because Tradition brings talent, talent brings enrollment, and enrollment brings $ which means upgraded facilities, and much more.

 

 

Glad you brought up Mike Mitchell. He left a school that has a larger enrollment than Highlands to attend Highlands. Size matters?