So punish her, and the others, including the teachers if they took part. Not the young man.

 

It says that others can do the community service. They all go together and wipe it out in a couple of hours.

In the principal's response I think he admits that this is not a binding decision and the school is just withholding the paper diploma.

 

"Whether the document or holding a student responsible for the actions of others is legal is not clear."

"Legally, he has graduated and he will receive his diploma," Handler said. "That's not an issue at all...This is just a rule, an expectation that we set.. and we expect the parents to follow through on it."

 

 

Read more: Mt. Healthy Schools: Student's family cheering was excessive

I believe schools generally give a sheet of paper saying something instead of an actual diploma at graduation. They get their diplomas mailed to them.

 

But while I agree the rules are rules, IMO this is a case of admins with their ties too tight or in her case her bra a little too tight. Relax, wait for the cheering to stop and move on. If it happens for another child, wait, politely ask for quiet and go on. Like she said in the video, it's 13yrs of hard work. These kids deserve a moment to shine in front of people...even if it prolongs the ceremony.

Seems kind of silly to prohibit cheering in the first place. Seems even sillier to punish the kid for what his family did. Want to prove a point? Kick the family out. Stop the ceremony and escort them out of the building. Leave the kid alone.

 

Good seats are hard to find at graduations anyways. That'd free up 10 seats. They already saw their kid walk. Everybody wins.

I would like the Superintendant to be come a 5th grade girls volley ball referee......

 

.....waaaay too much cheering and hugging after every point.....even if they lose the point.....

 

.....one 8am Saturday morning, after "staying up too late" the night before....I had a "headache" and went to the Neice's 5th grade vball game....

 

.....it was like a Justin Bieber concert broke out.......

 

.....I especially liked it when the server hit her own player in the back of the head......and they ALL met in the middle , hugged and screamed.....

 

.....this is what needs to be banned.

Who signs something without reading it, in this day and age? So she didn't hear the announcement prior to the start of the event either and didn't she just wonder why so many other family were being respectful or did that just not matter to her!

 

I'm with you on this issue TOG. The lady claiming that if she signed it, she didn't read it reminds unfortunately of too many homeowners that didn't (allegedly) read the loan papers before they took out a loan with an ARM interest rate provision to buy their homes and then cried foul when the interest rate rose. Only an absolute moron or fool does not read what he/she signs.

 

I said it in the Marine t shirt thread and I'll reiterate it here: a rule is a rule. If we expect kids to get that message, parents better show they get that message. What an absolutely poor example those committing the excessive celebration provided for their children.

 

I also agree that the kid unfortunately bears responsibility for those to whom he provided the tickets. That may seem harsh, but there really is no other way to regulate the matter.

 

Which gets to the crux of the matter: is it really necessary to regulate the excessive cheering? I get the joy of seeing a child graduate. I've felt it twice at the high school level with my sons and once (so far) on the college level.

 

But jeezil petes, if I can't have the discipline to control myself I should be ashamed of myself. Hoop and holler all you want after the ceremony is over, but don't detract from the ceremony or the other people wanting to hear their children's name be called. It's really not that difficult of a rule to comply with in my opinion.

I would like the Superintendant to be come a 5th grade girls volley ball referee......

 

.....waaaay too much cheering and hugging after every point.....even if they lose the point.....

 

.....one 8am Saturday morning, after "staying up too late" the night before....I had a "headache" and went to the Neice's 5th grade vball game....

 

.....it was like a Justin Bieber concert broke out.......

 

.....I especially liked it when the server hit her own player in the back of the head......and they ALL met in the middle , hugged and screamed.....

 

.....this is what needs to be banned.

 

 

:lol: :lol:

 

I can only imagine.

I said it in the Marine t shirt thread and I'll reiterate it here: a rule is a rule. If we expect kids to get that message, parents better show they get that message. What an absolutely poor example those committing the excessive celebration provided for their children.

 

But jeezil petes, if I can't have the discipline to control myself I should be ashamed of myself. Hoop and holler all you want after the ceremony is over, but don't detract from the ceremony or the other people wanting to hear their children's name be called. It's really not that difficult of a rule to comply with in my opinion.

You and I live in a community where that type of parental respect still prevails. Sadly it's becoming more rare by the day.

Not sure if the school can legally withhold the kids diploma but I do believe parents and family members need to learn how to act at certain events. Having attended many Ludlow graduations in the past it was always made very clear by the administration on what was the expected behavior of those attending at this very dignified event. The people who run the graduation ceremony at Ludlow do an excellent job with their commencement ceremony.

No Clyde the students parents and family embarrassed their child, and the school system and not the super!

 

Don't blame the superintend who set forth the rules before the event by sending out letters with the invitations telling the guest that they were excepted to behave themselves and then again before the names were called out reminding the guest to behave themselves.

 

The student invited those who attended the event and he was responsible for them and they not the super let him down.

 

Clyde the rules are the rules! They are made for the good of all and if a few break the rules because they don't want to follow the rules, well they understood or should have understood what was going to happen.

 

The student has no one to blame but his own family!

 

I'm blaming the sup for an asinine rule and for punishing a kid who has no control over who cheers. Heck , the story said teachers were also cheering. Kid had no control over the situation , thus, the kid got punished ergo it's embarrassing for the school system.

From what I understand he or his family members can do the 20 hours community service!

 

Question? If the young man is driving his or even the family car and lets say two of his uncles refuse to put their seat belts on, who gets the ticket if he gets stopped? Then again one of his Uncles throws out a bottle from the car and a officer of the law sees it, who gets the ticket? In both cases the driver is responsible for controlling his passengers. Doesn't matter if he didn't do it, he is the one who should have told his family members to please act responsible!

 

I used the word "asinine" too early in an earlier post.

 

I should have saved it for the "seat belt ticket" comparison.

I know of about 200 or so a day.

 

I bet you do.

Rules are rules just like with the college day t-shirt.

 

Agree wholeheartedly in theory.

 

Just like that was a bad rule and later changed this, too, is a bad rule and the sup should realize that and not punish the kid for actions of others.

As the teacher in charge of graduation at my school, I can tell you that we DO hand out the actual diploma at graduation. I can also tell you that legally we could hold the actual diploma for a variety of reasons, but we couldn't hold an official transcript noting that a student had graduated.

 

Before we award diplomas, our principal reads a statement about reserving cheering so that every parent can hear their own child's name. There is also a note in the graduation program about it. I would say that about 75% of families do no cheering, 20% do just a quick cheer or "I love you, Jimmy!" Only a few prolong it. It used to really bother me, but now I just accept it. I still worry that, even though our principal pauses, that someone will continue cheering while the next kid's nae is being read. This year we didn't really have any problem.

I've always believed this issue is a socio-economic issue and that's why we see the hard stances being taken. Too many people cannot relate.

 

The "excessive" cheer took all of about 3 to 5 seconds. The rule is unnecessary as most families will not cheer at all or will, as TBG points out, throw a quick "yay!". So asking the speaker to delay the reading of the next name in the few instances where many of us deem "excessive cheering" takes place isn't that big of a deal.

 

The sup needs to re-evaluate her rules.