I'm talking specifically about Mt Ref and his problems with Mrs. Obama. IMO it goes way beyond the fact she's a female. Again, pure speculation on my part but I feel strongly that deep down I'm right.

 

Couldn't agree more. :thumb:

What is it about the word "marriage?" It's derived from an Anglo-French word which is in turn derived from a Latin word used by pagans.

 

Do not marry pagans Deuteronomy 7:3:4

 

Man and woma become one Genesis 2:25:25

 

Paul on Marriage 1st Corinthians 7:2:4

 

I looked up the wword a long time ago and Websters said "an union between a man and a woman", and the bible explains it that way. The word comes from God and how important the word is, he made man and man needed a helpmate, and we got a woman who came from man. Its just doesn't fit for same sex and marriage.

I feel you are hiding behind your bible (and thus a word) to not make the tough post...

 

Show me where I'm hiding..I'll wait. This is gonna be a blast.

Show me where I'm hiding..I'll wait. This is gonna be a blast.

Luckily you won't have to wait long.

 

It's a simple question. Bill and Bob are married. How does the fact that they're married negatively impact Alabama Larry and his daily life? And please, answer without saying "the Bible says so". I want a real world example of how them calling it a marriage has a negative impact on you.

...I'll wait.

The problem is Larry, that this is not a religious issue. This is a civil issue. This is a state recognition issue. It is not a Catholic/Baptist issue b/c nobody has ever stated that denominations and religions must recognize these marriages.

 

People are pushing their religious agendas, but should have nothing to do w/ religion other than the moral codes that are reflected in the Constitution. This is an equal protection and fundamental rights issue.

 

Nice comment, but I disagree, I have said give them their rights, their benefits, but its still an issue as a huge Sin, this needs to be addressed, we are talking about a lifetime commitment here. And in my book (bible) an eternty issue.

On the other hand Mitt Romney as a member of the Morman faith believes that marriage is between a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman .............

 

I assume you were just being funny; or I hope you were just being funny. If so, stop reading.

 

If not, you are displaying an ignorance of the Mormon faith. Mormon teachings do not believe that a man can have more than one wife. Do Mormons practice polygamy? | Mormon.org

 

As a fellow Catholic, we should be very reluctant in criticizing almost any faith on this earth given the corruption of the Catholic Church and the dishonesty and disceitfulness concerning the sexual abuse by our clergy. Good Lord, I'd rather have a religion okay with a man having 4 wives and treating them all well than have a religion that tolerated, covered up and knowing lied about priests sexually abusing young boys.

 

Romney has his faults; being a Mormon is not one of them.

Nice comment, but I disagree, I have said give them their rights, their benefits, but its still an issue as a huge Sin, this needs to be addressed, we are talking about a lifetime commitment here. And in my book (bible) an eternty issue.

Your book doesn't govern our society. Especially not us heathens...

Luckily you won't have to wait long.

 

...I'll wait.

The word comes from God, he created man and then a helper for a man, this is a Marriage. I have to defend this. I have writtten over 20 letters to the local paper and have been published even though they called me and saidIi use to many bible verse (sound familar) and they will edit them out, talking about hiding...

 

We as christians have to defend the bible and the concepts from the bible, abortions, is another one, and when the leader of my nation goes against God its a moral issue that worries me about my nation and the future of it. Being Gay is a Sin.

 

God's word takes a stand and we need to take a stand, we have turned a blind eye and deaf ear far too long, we need to take a stand, we cannot pick and choose the bible. There are 32 states who agree with me.

 

20 years ago this wouldn't be talked about, why is now changed did God change, did the bible go away? The bible talks about judgement, and Sin. God destroyed cities due to this Sin.

 

Out dated book, too old, lets change it and let Gay life style be OK now, who changed this, Homosexual activity was rampart in the Old testament, and still is today. I thinki ts sad day for America, the most talked about issue right now is what? And why is that?

 

I love people and want them to live the code set out by God and to love God and believe the bible, there is no joy in what the president said...I am shocked he is the first sitting president to do this, why is that?

I don't want to speak for Alabama Larry, but he may perhaps think along the same lines as me.

 

I think that marriage should be a religious institution. The government shouldn't be in the business of recognizing marriages. Let the government grant civil unions. This can be used for purposes of determining tax status, next of kin, etc.

 

With that being said, I would have no problem with Ace's church marrying a homosexual couple and AL's church not recognizing that marriage. I would think that a church would require a civil union also be granted, but perhaps not.

The word comes from God, he created man and then a helper for a man, this is a narriage. I have to defend this. I have writtten over 20 letters to the local paper and have been published even though they called me and said i use to many bible verese and they will edit them out, talking about hiding...

 

We as christians have to defend the bible and the concepts from the bible, abortions, is another one, and when the leader of my nation goes against God its a moral issue that worries me about my nation and the future of it. Being Gay is a Sin.

 

God's word takes a stand and we need to take a stand, we have turned a blind eye and deaf ear far too long, we need to take a stand, we cannot pick and choose the bible. There are 32 states who agree with me.

 

20 years ago this wouldn't be talked about, why is npow changed did God change, did the bible go away. Tnhe bible talks about judgement, and SXin. God destroyed cities due to this Sin.

 

Out dated book, too old, lets change it and let Gay life style be OK now, who changed this, Homsexual activity was rampart in the Old testament, and still is today. I gthinkits sad day for America, the most talked about issue right now is what? And why is that?

 

I love people and want them to live the code set out by God and to love God and believe the bible, there is no joy in what the president said...I am shocked he is the first sitting president to do this, why is that?

Either you are being willfully stubborn, woefully ignorant to what we are asking, or you plan to continue hiding behind your book. I'm not sure which one it is at this point. But you obviously aren't going to answer. I'll quit asking.

And this is exactly why I don't like going to church.

Do not marry pagans Deuteronomy 7:3:4

 

That's exactly what I'm talking about. "Marry" is derived of a pagan word. It is not Hebrew.

I don't want to speak for Alabama Larry, but he may perhaps think along the same lines as me.

 

I think that marriage should be a religious institution. The government shouldn't be in the business of recognizing marriages. Let the government grant civil unions. This can be used for purposes of determining tax status, next of kin, etc.

 

With that being said, I would have no problem with Ace's church marrying a homosexual couple and AL's church not recognizing that marriage. I would think that a church would require a civil union also be granted, but perhaps not.

The government is already in the marriage business whether we like it or not. Don't you agree?

 

Assuming you do, should we allow our government to not afford homosexual couples the same benefits afforded to heterosexual couples?

And this is exactly why I don't like going to church.

There's always room over here.

Alabama Larry, I think that what some are asking is why should one person's biblical beliefs and interpretations over rule another's? Everyone thinks that their version of their religion is "right." Why should religion be used to make a government decision?