What is a class war?

What is a class war?

 

1% vs 99%....:lol:

Politics of envy.

I would assume that such a war, if "politics of envy" is an operational definition, could only be "one-way"; i.e., the have-nots being envious of the haves (why would haves be envious of have-nots?).

 

So attacks on welfare recipients, for example, could not be construed as a class war since there's nothing to be envious of there.

I would assume that such a war, if "politics of envy" is an operational definition, could only be "one-way"; i.e., the have-nots being envious of the haves (why would haves be envious of have-nots?).

 

So attacks on welfare recipients, for example, could not be construed as a class war since there's nothing to be envious of there.

Those that play the system or those that truly need the welfare?

It reminds you of a disfunctional sports team struggles.

 

Your losing every game. Everyone is getting frustrated and the players all blame each other for not pulling their weight. The top players are upset with the lesser players for their lack of contribution. And the lesser players are frustrated with the top players for not being good enough to pull them through and win. And no one is really getting any better - individually or as a team. And it just spirals downward.

 

This is what this economy feels like and why this class warfare has come up.

Class war is defined in my mind as the battle that has been waged for the last 30 years on the middle and lower classes. It is as simple as looking at the wealth and income concentrations that have developed over this time period. Every economic indicator shows a worse situation for the have nots/middle class and a remarkably better situation for the haves. Yet if you advocate for the return of a more progressive tax system you have "class envy" but if you try everything in your power to bust any an all unionized labor and cut social safety net programs you are only doing what is prudent. I say bull, you are simply restributing wealth from labor to management (shareholders), from programs that benefit the less fortunate to those who just want to accumulate more wealth. Class warfare is a real thing and the war is lopsided in favor of the prosperous.

This really is fascinating to me. On the one hand, class war is the have-nots waging war against the haves. A conservative viewpoint. On the other hand, class war is the haves waging war against the have-nots. A liberal viewpoint. And presumably both are happening concurrently.

 

On which side is the middle class most likely to fall?

This really is fascinating to me. On the one hand, class war is the have-nots waging war against the haves. A conservative viewpoint. On the other hand, class war is the haves waging war against the have-nots. A liberal viewpoint. And presumably both are happening concurrently.

 

On which side is the middle class most likely to fall?

 

 

What middle class?

I asked this question earlier:

 

Where have you seen the truly poor advocating for a higher tax on the 1%?

I asked this question earlier:

 

Where have you seen the truly poor advocating for a higher tax on the 1%?

 

'Truly poor'? As in living in metal huts with dirt floors and no running water like the truly poor in Brazil or India?

I asked this question earlier:

 

Where have you seen the truly poor advocating for a higher tax on the 1%?

Obviously they are all not poor but you have to assume a portion of the occupy movement is poor.

What middle class?

The one between the upper and lower classes.

What middle class?

 

The one between the upper and lower classes.

 

I think it's called The Thin Red Line.

What is a class war?

 

I think it is pretty simple. If you point out that over the past thirty years the vast portion of economic gain has gone to only the wealthiest in our society, that will be called class wafare. If you point out that there are some that try to take advantage of the social safety net, that will be called class warfare. In truth, our system is out of whack. Too much of the fruits of economic growth are going to too few. It isn't class warfare to point that out. At the same time, it is also legitimate to point out that there are some that take advantage of the safety net. The problem is that when we talk about it one side chooses to only see welfare cheats and one side tries to see economic success as evil.

 

Those on this board that want to characterize asking the highest earners to pay a higher tax rate as "class warfare" are flat out wrong. The bills have to be paid by someone. Asking the portion of our society that over the past thirty years has accumulated an increasing share of the economic pie to pay at a higher rate is only common sense. In the late seventies the top one percent took about 8 percent of income. Now it is in the high twenties. That argues very strongly for tax rates on the top earners to go up. It isn't because they are evil or because they have done anything wrong, it just makes the most economic sense.