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It won't end anytime soon, if at all, without rules changes...like moving to classes from a single class.... or limiting the number of players from the same club team that can be on the same HS team (Ohio does this). Rules changes are hard to push through. The State Championship would require an overhaul... The easiest place to start would be to let both the Regional winner and runner-up advance and then play 1 extra round before state to trim it from 32 to 16 teams. That would eliminate the weakest of the weak and allow for 2 teams to go to State from the deeper Regions. Would instantly make the level of play at the State Tourney better, and would likely raise attendance.

You have to understand 3 things first: No public school has ever won a Volleyball State Championship. Only 6 schools have ever won a championship. And no school outside of Louisville has won a championship in 20 years. Statewide excitement over volleyball is just not going to be there because, realistically, only the 3 Louisville schools have a shot of winning the title every year - with the Region 9 (Northern Kentucky) and Region 11 (Lexington) winners having an outside shot. The talent gap between the "Big 4" (Assumption, Mercy, Sacred Heart, Notre Dame) vs the rest of the state is massive. The Big 4 are nationally ranked every year, receive national coverage, and play a national schedule against the best in the nation from other states. The Big 4 can beat state champs from other states, and nationally ranked teams from California and Texas. A rural public school isn't going to be able to compete with that. Yes, there are absolute D1 superstars here and there across the state. But you better have 15 legit college players on your team if you want to beat Assumption, because that's what they have every year. And then there's club. Louisville area club volleyball is the best in the nation. People move there so their kids can play. Northern Kentucky is pretty good too. And Lexington is getting better, thus the Dunbars and Henry Clays of the world are getting better. So if you aren't playing club volleyball, and not just any club volleyball, but nationally ranked high-end-best-in-the-nation-traveling-all-over-the-country club volleyball, you are not keeping up with the Big 4. Kentucky likely produces more collegiate volleyball players per population than any other state, but the complete dominance by 4 Catholic schools probably generates a lot of resentment and dampens the enthusiasm statewide. Plus the State Tournament is a joke, leaving out very good teams from stronger regions, in favor of an all-inclusive format that results in blow-out matches. Go to LIVT if you want to see the best HS Volleyball in the State, not the State Tourney.

How is the title misleading? It's 100% accurate. "drill down" to get the info? It's 1 click on the link. Literally 1 click. What I did was give the people an option to read the info or not. Freedom to choose. What you did was force the info on everyone whether they wanted to read it or not. Thanks Big Government.

Thanks from the Department of Redundancy Department.

More girls participate in Volleyball than any other sport.

I read the other thread. You posted that all kids are eligible. Which is why I questioned all the posts saying they were not. Your post below:

It doesn't matter how much softball I've seen. I don't vote. Coaches vote. And they see a lot of softball. And like it or not, they made their choice. So along with all the crap coaches have to put up with all season, their POY selection is being questioned. Funny how I'm the one painted as taking shots.

"Seems like the girls that could not be considered for all state teams have had a very big impact on this game." - JOAT in update thread What does this mean, "not be considered". As soon as JOAT posted this, Karma hit like a freight train. Congrats to the Regional POY. They deserve it. There are great players in every sport, every year, that aren't POY.

what does it mean when someone writes: "But the process is failed when there is not true way of making sure all kids are considered for this award" What about the process has failed?

Periscope. It's easy, anyone can watch (download the app first) and there's audio so you can do play-by-play (and we can hear everything, so be careful) Also, thecube is the same thing. Download the App and start broadcasting. Both are in HD. And for heaven's sake, hold your phone the correct way for video - the long way! My #1 pet peeve!

This thread should be moved by a Mod to the "club" sports section since it has nothing to do with HS Sports.

Haylee (correct spelling) finished 11-8 with 2 saves and a 2.91 era at D2 Southern Indiana

It's been stated over and over...in club you are paying for the training, and the high level of competition, not the playing time. Who starts, plays, serves... is up to the coach. If your kid isn't doing any of that, they still get the same training and a chance to improve, show themselves in practice, and earn their spot. If you want guaranteed playing time, join a rec league.

Vs back in the old days, my guess is same amount of hard core fans going - family, friends, fans of school. But not getting casual fans now. Why? Casual fan can watch on line - less hassle, and cheaper when considering gas, food, travel - and less of a time investment. The rise of AAU basketball probably a reason too.

Region 9 the past 10 years... 2015 NDA 2014 NDA 2013 NDA 2012 NDA 2011 NDA 2010 St. Henry 2009 NDA 2008 NDA 2007 NDA 2006 St. Henry A public school just isn't going to win the 9th Region (or the 6th or 7th FYI) NDA finished last year ranked 20th in the Nation - I'm sure they can handle the 9th Region. The Varsity starters will all have big game experience in club and HS. Is NDA as good as the Louisville schools? Maybe not, but isn't that the question every year for NDA? NDA is the only team in the 9th playing on a national level. In 2010 it took an exceptional St. Henry team with college players Flood, Bessler, Fortner, Gurren, Ward, Knaley, and others to stop what could have been a 9 year run for NDA. Anyone see a team like that in 2016 to stop NDA? I don't.

What's your track record? Picking against NDA in volleyball is not a good plan.

Yea, my guess is this thread has the wrong date. 2016 is this fall.

Added HS Class

That pretty much sums it up. Their 61 game winning streak against Regions 8, 9, and 10 will march on.

Scott wins this going away. No one else in the Region has the talent to challenge them.

NKU is closer to more Kentuckians than WKU. Nothing they can do about that either.

You're not missing anything. It's great at NKU. Bold predictions that it will leave after next year is based on... what? Because someone in Region xx had to drive farther this year? Please.

If that's true, it doesn't matter where it's held, does it? 16 regions, someone is going to have to travel. BUT - if the goal is to attract more people not directly connected to the teams, the smartest play is to hold it near more people - which would mean keep it in Lou, Lex, or NKY.

No it's not. Not to the majority of Kentuckians. This isn't about distances on a map, but where the population center of Kentucky is. The 3 biggest population areas in Kentucky are in order: 1. Louisville 2. Lexington 3. Northern Kentucky. The fact is, more people in Kentucky are closer to NKU than to WKU. That's a good enough reason to me to leave it there.

Neither is WKU. Hence the name. It broke the attendance record for a session in the quarter finals.