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X should be stronger this year than last. In reality, X is outscoring Trintiy 3 to 2 in points the past 2 years, over four games. But T wins the ones that matters. :cry:

Rockmom says "I think you're selling the schools short. I also think that until you've been in the environment, you don't understand." This about sums up the debate I think. It's hard to explain sometimes. Hey Rockmom, I live two blocks from Assumption, on Hoock. My girl goes to Mercy! Something happened in 7th grade, when she changed from AHS to Mercy. She said she couldn't explain it to me, it just felt right. I guess we catholics grab that phrase early, and use it often! :lol:

This is one of the top misconceptions of private schools. That, and we are all millionaires. Anyway, to expound on a few points already made. Most already know what they are finacially getting into when they take the placement test. What they don't know, is if they will get any scholarships or aid. They do know it is capped at 50% if they do. My daughter got my brains so she received a scholarship based on her test score, but it only last for one year. Currently, I am receiving emails from school about other scholarship oportunities for next year. I just rec'd this link from school if you would like to check it out. These are not affiliated with the archdiocese at all, or are not targeted to athletes. http://www.cflouisville.org/ click tabs on left for specific areas In addition to aid, there are work study programs available to reduce tuition. I did that at X and it was the hardest work i've ever done, akin to torture I thought. "Move that 10 foot dirtpile over there", then a month later you moved it back. :creepy: Nowadays, it's just cleaning rooms, but we hand shoveled the dirtpile for the baseball field, cut the grass, even did some roofing on the old weight room, etc.

Both schools have special ed programs as stated. Though I am an X guy, it is my understanding the Trinity pogram is better. Maybe they should make a championship for that, so X will raise their game. I do know one kid (the mom actually) who is receiving a rather substantial amount of financial aid for her son to attend the Trinity special ed program. She stated to me, without it, he absolutely would not have attended Trinity, where he is a Soph or Junior right now. I can guarantee he doesn't / can't play sports due to his disabilities. That is really all I know about special ed programs. I assume there is added expense involved in these programs, which is why public schools can afford to handle them more readily than privates (tax dollars). I also assume the gov't helps with these expenses. When my daughter attended public grade school for 2 years, her school also accepted special ed students, specifically those in wheelchairs since the school was very accessible. So I have seen the concessions needed, and sometimes they are daunting.

He was awesome, wasn't he!

IMO, focusing on just one sport when you are capable of playing more is the worst thing you can do to a kid. Do they focus on just math in school for 6 hours? Kids need to experience more in life, and a teen is too young to focus on one thing that early in life. Look at Brian Brohm. He went to state in three sports his senior year alone, but we all know where his bread was buttered. Did it hurt him? Or Bobby Curtis at X, who only joined cross country to get in shape for wrestling. Just happens to be the greatest runner EVER at X, and top 10 in the state's history. He just broke the 4 minute mile last year in college. Or my daughter, who joined lacrosse to get in shape for summer field hockey, and has scored all but 1 of our teams goals this (young) season. :ylsuper: These kids that focus so hard on just one sport, and then fail for one reason or another, are set back in many ways. Also, I see a lot of talk about this happening at small schools, but it happens very often at large schools as well.

From saintx.com No athletic mission statement, only one for the school, which includes athletics. _________________________________________________________________ SAINT XAVIER HIGH SCHOOL MISSION Saint Xavier, a Catholic secondary school sponsored by the Xaverian Brothers since 1864, seeks to provide an unparalleled range of academic, spiritual, athletic, and extracurricular programs in a college preparatory environment. VISION To build the best Catholic High School in America. EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHY Saint Xavier High School, in keeping with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and its own traditions, strives for the developmental formation of the individual, which looks toward a person’s final end and contribution to the common good of society. Saint Xavier believes that the Gospel ideal of love of God and love of neighbor is the basis of human society and seeks, therefore, to provide for each student’s spiritual, moral, intellectual, aesthetic, physical, emotional and social growth. Saint Xavier provides students the opportunity to practice a responsible use of freedom, and to embrace and model the values and attitudes which serve as the foundation of a committed Christian in a global society. As an educational institution, Saint Xavier is dedicated to providing a strong liberal arts curriculum which supports the development of the complete person. Structured as college preparatory, Saint Xavier admits students of varying abilities who seek the benefits of Catholic education. Saint Xavier’s program of studies challenges the intellectual ability of its students, provides for individual learning styles, promotes educational development through the creative use of one’s talents, enhances critical thinking skills, and encourages a commitment of service to the interdependent community.

Sadly, if they do ever win in one of those two sports, they will be called cheaters. :mad:

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Nice finds bluegrass, thats good info. A lot of my "data" is merely how I, my friends and my family live our lives. I go over the river much more often than I go to Bullitt or Oldham county for example. Usually for dining, shopping etc. Tip of the day - > It's much nicer having lunch, sitting on the Indiana side, and looking at the Louisville skyline, than it is the other way around. There's not much to look at on the Indiana side right now. FYI, they are currently renovating an old CSX train bridge on the river, that will become a walkway to connect both states, with small park areas at each end. This will make us even more a part of each others lives.

We fired a guy at UPS for eating a few M&M's out of a bag that broke open inside a package. He was charged with stealing.

We had a guy is HS who was really quick. We would hold him down between classes, and he had to solve it to get to the next class. I thought he was under a minute, but you know how your memory can be sometimes.

So other than that, you're saying all this is true?

Not sure that is true, but would be great for him if it is. They are recruiting Deuce, but he is still a ways downs their list. They are loaded at RB (yes, believe it or not, but their OL stinks which is why the lousy results) and look to take only 2 this year. Deuce is receiving material, was at Jr day, etc.

Trindon Holliday would disagree. :fight: http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=233482&Q_SEASON=2007

See blue above for my response. Well that was easy to fix!

The regular season game is another thing all together. The date is known in advance, and it's certain they will be there. The weather is always better, and not so close to the holidays. Families plan vacations around that date. There was a time when that game drew more than UofL games, back when they stunk. A few years ago, our little survey counted folks from over 30 states and 3 countries, including Iraq. A father took his military leave to co-incide with the big game. How cool is that? Nonetheless, the attendance was still much greater than other games this year. It's all relative.

A lot of focus is spent here regarding cities on our borders, but the same could apply to other towns in the middle of the state as well. They could, and should I believe, be allowed to open their districts. So 94camel, your school could take kids from surrounding counties, just like privates do in Louisville. I don't care about tax dollar implications, which have nothing to do with providing kids the best education. Tax rules are only meant to generate funds.

Please tell me the name of a nationally recognized private HS school in Southern Indiana. :sleep: That is why kids from that area take a 10-15 minute car ride to school in KY. You only hear about the ones who play sports, but there are 10 non athletes for every athlete who make the same trip. I can't speak for the rest of the state, but southern Indiana is just an extension of Louisville. They watch our TV stations, and hear our radio reports. We hear theirs too. Theres even a chance that they will be getting city water - from Lousiville!!! - in the not too distant future. We eat lunch in each others states. 25% of all Louisville workers do not even reside in our county, most of which come from IN. That grinds my gears that they are taking OUR money back to THEIR counties. Is this what it gets down to? It seems petty to me. A kid should be able to go wherever he/she wants to get an education they are happy with. It makes the whole United States of America "thing" seem a little comical to me. There is nothing "United" about us at all.

I personally don't think that senario happens as often to begin with, unless I have just not been paying attn. But your point is actually irrelevant to what point I was trying to make. It may or may not happen, I don't know. I was just saying there are roughly 20 as many kids that go from private to public HS, vs the other way around. That is why I believe all the proposals put out in the past few years will only make the divide between the two even larger. These proposals will apply to publics just the same as privates, effecting a lot of those parochial school athletes.

Eventually one of those league would disappear! Every time someone wins the title, they would have to move to the other class with all the pvs winners.

Lots of good points, especially Guru and LBBC about the differences between the different sports. Once huge issue I have with publics is that I don't think they provide enough opportunity for kids to join sports, especially girls sports. Sure they hit the big ones, but take no initiative to expand the olympic sports programs. Lacrosse (boys and girls) and field hockey are a few examples. Lacrosse I'm just learning, but I learned a lot out field hockey last season. Our state tournament consisted of all Louisville teams. Our tourney was the exact same teams we played all season?!? That's ridiculous, and unfair to many girls out in the state who aren't given enough opportunity to play sports. Face it, a certain type of girl (size and strength wise) usually plays BBall, VBall or Softball. Hockey on the other hand provides the smaller girls a chance to compete. One of the best in state this season was a Ballard girl, who had many D1 offers, and she was only 4'11". Mercy just had 6 hockey players get D1 schollies this year, and that team lost in the first round at State! That's 6 opportunities for girls to pay for college. It also helps with title IX issues, since you are fielding a team using 11 players, just like football. Why don't publics get out in the forefront of some of these lesser known sports? Is it just money? I understand there will be growing pains, which are even evident in Louisville at some schools. But you have to crawl before you can walk. If schools get in while the sports are just starting to develop, they won't be behind the curve 30 years from now when they complain that privates are too strong. Just my rant, not trying to derail a pretty good post.

We go to watch the girls row sometimes, if getting up at 5 am is your thing of course. They don't get too close to the falls, usually staying between the island (Towhead I think) and the mainland. They store their boats is a ratty looking facility and the girls drive themselves to practice. The river is free. I can't see where this sport is costing too much to UofL. Assumption HS has a rowing team, and I hope Mercy and others add one as well. My kid is perfect for the one at the front of boat -- she has a little body and BIG lungs!!

Are you saying publics school is an entitlement program? Like welfare? We tried that. But I had a problem with the whole God being off limits thing, among other issues. :fire: As far as sports, they don't do enough to be inclusive, which is important since I have a daughter. How many have field hockey and girls lacrosse teams? I'll tell you, virtually none, especialy outside the city of Louisville. The field hockey STATE tourney consisted of teams ALL from Louisville. I question the judgements of a school system who won't even provide oppotunities for my daughter, unless she is a basketball player of course. Start a lacrosse team, or a field hockey team. Get in on the ground floor of lacrosse, or just wait 40 years when you do have a program, then cry because it is dominated by the privates. KCD especially.

FYI LBBC, I believe you are repeating an erroneous stereotype. More kids actually go from catholic parochial to public HS than the other way around, although the public side thinks we raid their coffers. :lol: This is for Louisville only of course. In the 2006-07 year, the stats showed about 49% of the 14,000 parochial kids went to public HS. Many go on to stellar athletic and academic careers. Male and Manual would practically cease to exist athletically without these kids. Our parish is a pipeline for those 2 schools.