Campbell County 46 Bishop Brossart 40

[bigblueinsanity]

Nice list of players there but he is ahead of at least 3 of them. Sounds like you are calling him lazy??? Unless you know Coach Russell's offensive plays or scheme then I don't think you can say that he just stands around. He is by far the most "clutch" player on that list.

 

Which 3 would you put ahead of him? He needed to get the ball more last night at times he just stood around. I agree he has made some big shots this season vs Mason Co, and BB last night I know those two. But remember Mason Co was without Black!

[striker]

I don't think scheduling is an issue, they beat Holmes, beat Highlands, beat NCC once and lost once, lost by 2 to Bowling Green, lost by 5 to Clay County, Lost to Campbell twice, beat Pendleton, beat Harrison, beat Scott, Lost to Mason and they do scrimmage Boone in pre season.

 

There's no reason they should be playing Augusta, Deming, Bracken, and maybe even St. Pat's during the regular season.

 

As for the TO, it's not like the Stangs were up one, or the game was even tied. A big man was in trouble up top near half court with them down by two and eight seconds left. They weren't exactly shooting an open shot when Code called the timeout. I think with everything he's done, he should get the benefit of the doubt.

 

Brossart's underclassmen need to learn from this. They need people to step up and lead in these close games. They need to pull these games out next year.

[kings102876]

Which 3 would you put ahead of him? He needed to get the ball more last night at times he just stood around. I agree he has made some big shots this season vs Mason Co, and BB last night I know those two. But remember Mason Co was without Black!

 

I am going to give credit to Brossart's players and the coaching staff for having an excellent game plan in the first half for Nate. They held him in check and kept him from getting as many touches. The Mason County game w/ Black is still a what if?

 

1. Prewitt

2. McGovney

3. Black (may be 1 or 2 but has only played part of the season due to injury)

4. Monroe

5. Stenzel

6. Fatkin or Caleb Ford

[WiseManFromTheMtn]

Congrats to Brossart and the coaching staff on a great season. Great job by the Camels in not giving up but continuing to play. Of note:

 

1) I would like to know the specific instances that contributed to the 'kudos to Jared White for his defense on Jennings'. I did see Griffin work his butt off in the lane defensively and made Jennings battle for position every possession that Griffin had the assignment. Griffin was the catalyst for this win with his defensive effort and mindset that he wasn't going to just let the big man do what he wanted. Defensive MVP of this game!

 

2) Long time Camel fan - but McGovney fouled Saunders twice on the play at the end of the game. First with the body and then the second with the block, but there were missed calls both ways the entire game.

 

3) Holbrook showed maturity and confidence last night. He didn't make ill-advised passes or take hurried shots. He played within himself and did his part to get this team to victory in the final couple minutes.

 

4) McGovney continues to show why he should be considered in the conversation for best in the region.

 

Good luck Camels against Scott, I'm sure Coach Carr brings something special to the party on Friday night.

 

Jared guarded Jennings for the majority of the 4th quarter and part of the 3rd and he did not score and could not get off a decent shot. He also drew a charge that was big. Dalton did do a great job on him as well and when Jared took Jennings, that enabled Dalton to key on Saunders which took him out of his game.

[Lucky Charms]

I don't think scheduling is an issue, they beat Holmes, beat Highlands, beat NCC once and lost once, lost by 2 to Bowling Green, lost by 5 to Clay County, Lost to Campbell twice, beat Pendleton, beat Harrison, beat Scott, Lost to Mason and they do scrimmage Boone in pre season.

 

All those teams that you listed are nice teams that all play at a different "speed". The Augustas, Demings, Brackens and Beechwoods of the world do not matchup with those teams "speed-wise". To me it serves no purpose. I'd rather lose by 5 to 10 against Dixie, Boone, Ryle, Simon Kenton or CovCath than beat Augusta, Deming, Bracken or Beechwood by 15+. I want my boys battle tested, thats how it used to be. Now they are playing the "early to mid" 1990's Brossart schedule.

[dd734]

Twenty two (22) fouls were whistled against Brossart while Campbell County only had eleven (11) whistled against them, an obvious disproprotion by the officials. With regards to Saunders getting hammer, how can spectators sitting on the other side of the court say it was a clean block. Fans sitting on the side where the foul occured will tell you that it was a fragant foul that should have been called Kudos to Justin Saunders for his offense and defense play and his refusal to loose attitude throughout the season. .

 

I believe the 22 and 11 you are referring to are foul shots attempted, not fouls committed. Those fans that thought it was a flagrant foul, those would be Brossart fans correct? Blaming the Refs for the loss? Brossart did have a double digit lead that they gave up. Brossart played hard, as did the Camels! By the nature of the contest, it was predetermined that there would be a winner and a loser in this game. Camels came out on top. Sour grapes doesn't change anything.

Edited February 23, 2012 by dd734

[Clyde]

I'm having trouble picturing a play where one side saw it as a clean block and the other saw it as a flagrant ie ejectionalbe foul.

[Lucky Charms]

I'm having trouble picturing a play where one side saw it as a clean block and the other saw it as a flagrant ie ejectionalbe foul.

 

Welcome to the Crosstown Shootout, Clyde.

[kings102876]

I believe the 22 and 11 you are referring to are foul shots attempted, not fouls committed. Those fans that thought it was a flagrant foul, those would be Brossart fans correct? Blaming the Refs for the loss? Brossart did have a double digit that they gave up. Brossart played hard, as did the Camels! By the nature of the contest, it was predetermined that there would be a winner and a loser in this game. Camels came out on top. Sour grapes doesn't change anything.

 

:thumb:

[TAC]

I believe the 22 and 11 you are referring to are foul shots attempted, not fouls committed. Those fans that thought it was a flagrant foul, those would be Brossart fans correct? Blaming the Refs for the loss? Brossart did have a double digit that they gave up. Brossart played hard, as did the Camels! By the nature of the contest, it was predetermined that there would be a winner and a loser in this game. Camels came out on top. Sour grapes doesn't change anything.

 

Fouls were 22 called against Brossart (2 at the very end) and 13 against Camp Co. There was one call that could have been flagrant, but it was not the block, and McGovney threw a pretty mean elbow at mid court that could have been called, but as I said earlier I thought the game was called fairly well. It did not determine the outcome. Lack of shooting/scoring in the second half doomed the Mustangs.

[kyvince]

I'm having trouble picturing a play where one side saw it as a clean block and the other saw it as a flagrant ie ejectionalbe foul.

 

Not me, it describes almost every questionable call between arch rivals at every level!

[TAC]

All those teams that you listed are nice teams that all play at a different "speed". The Augustas, Demings, Brackens and Beechwoods of the world do not matchup with those teams "speed-wise". To me it serves no purpose. I'd rather lose by 5 to 10 against Dixie, Boone, Ryle, Simon Kenton or CovCath than beat Augusta, Deming, Bracken or Beechwood by 15+. I want my boys battle tested, thats how it used to be. Now they are playing the "early to mid" 1990's Brossart schedule.

 

It is nice to see who your competition may be since they are an all A school. Plus Deming (King twins) has had a nice team over the past few years and Augusta upset Brossart a couple years ago? It will be interesting to see what the schedule looks like over the next couple of years with the talent they have coming up?

[Lucky Charms]

It is nice to see who your competition may be since they are an all A school. Plus Deming (King twins) has had a nice team over the past few years and Augusta upset Brossart a couple years ago? It will be interesting to see what the schedule looks like over the next couple of years with the talent they have coming up?

 

OK, would you agree with me on this - Brossart should not be playing the previously mentioned teams after the 10th Region All "A"?

[TAC]

OK, would you agree with me on this - Brossart should not be playing the previously mentioned teams after the 10th Region All "A"?

 

I agree! But keep in mind it may be a contract issue where they do a home/away and maybe they could not fit it into an earlier game? Or maybe the coach wanted to schedule a smaller school to work on some things as they prepare for the districts? Or...

[dd734]

Fouls were 22 called against Brossart (2 at the very end) and 13 against Camp Co. There was one call that could have been flagrant, but it was not the block, and McGovney threw a pretty mean elbow at mid court that could have been called, but as I said earlier I thought the game was called fairly well. It did not determine the outcome. Lack of shooting/scoring in the second half doomed the Mustangs.

 

The "pretty mean elbow", I believe the Brossart defender was a backed off from him on that one. If you watch Nate much, he does that a lot, but he doesn't make contact with other players when he does it, and it's never at someone's head. However, that did happen right after Nate was cleared out under the basket with a huge push in the back, so some frustration was oozing out more than likely. The Brossart fans are rough on Nate too, lol Comes with the territory. The Holbrook foul, while it was a hard foul. He went after the ball and made sure the basket would not be made. I don't believe it was flagrant. Can't really think of any others that were even hard fouls. It's so funny how differently things are seen. That's not a shot at you TAC, I'm just saying in general. Many of the posts on here, you wouldn't think they were at the same game. I personally thought the refs were less than stellar in both games last night. My opinions however, are tinted a little bit Purple, as many are tinted green, and it should be that way.

Edited February 23, 2012 by dd734