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The whole Westbrook dynamic still bothers me. He is talented, sure. But I am not a fan of score first, high volume shooting PGs. He wants to be the man on the team where it needs to be Durant. There are few rules that apply in the NBA when it comes to finding the consistent element of winning a title (eg. dominating big man, slashing wingman, etc.), but someone name me a score first, high volume shooting PG that has delivered a team a title? Iverson made it to the finals once, and they had no shot.

 

 

I'm saying they'll win the West this year. Not the title.

 

I think Isiah Thomas fits the mold of a score first, high volume shooting point guard. He was an exceptional passer but he seemed to take the most shots for the Pistons and was the team's leading scorer in ppg average wasn't he?

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I didn't really say it was special but to score 15 in your first game with no practice is a pretty nice feat. He's a streak shooter but you can't tell me this wasn't a good addition for Knicks.

 

Ehh, he can hurt just as much as he helps at times.

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Better than 1-8:lol:

 

Yes it is. I don't know who was 1-8 but 3-9 is better than 1-8. I assume it was Kobe. I love how your main purpose is to sneak in and out of the thread taking shots at Kobe.

I'm saying they'll win the West this year. Not the title.

 

I think Isiah Thomas fits the mold of a score first, high volume shooting point guard. He was an exceptional passer but he seemed to take the most shots for the Pistons and was the team's leading scorer in ppg average wasn't he?

Eh, yeah I guess you can say that. Though I do not equate Zeke's game to that of Westbrook. Zeke was a PG first and foremost, he was the team's leading scorer by default since he was the best player and on the court the most. And that was nearly 25 years ago. His advanced stats relative to the minutes he played would have him as the 3rd or 4th scorer on those teams I would say. Westbrook wants to be the scoring threat of OKC.

 

I just looked and the two season Detroit won the title with Thomas at the helm, he attempted 15.3 and 16.3 shots per game. Westbrook is near 19 with a scoring threat Thomas never had the luxury of having. That is a big difference.

Eh, yeah I guess you can say that. Though I do not equate Zeke's game to that of Westbrook. Zeke was a PG first and foremost, he was the team's leading scorer by default since he was the best player and on the court the most. And that was nearly 25 years ago. His advanced stats relative to the minutes he played would have him as the 3rd or 4th scorer on those teams I would say. Westbrook wants to the scoring threat of OKC.

 

 

I don't disagree with your assessment. It is an intriguing dynamic in OKC. I think they'll be fine as they are learning to make Westbrook's approach to the game work for them better now than last year. They should win the West but I don't think anybody has anything for the Heat. It looks like they have arrived.

Yes it is. I don't know who was 1-8 but 3-9 is better than 1-8. I assume it was Kobe. I love how your main purpose is to sneak in and out of the thread taking shots at Kobe.

 

You got me! :lol:

Yeah, they'll win it.

 

Too many jumpshots, and Durant gets pushed around in the playoffs. They have zero post presence on offense, none at all. Westbrook is probably their best option on the block for crying out loud. I'll gladly take the field.

 

Eh, yeah I guess you can say that. Though I do not equate Zeke's game to that of Westbrook. Zeke was a PG first and foremost, he was the team's leading scorer by default since he was the best player and on the court the most. And that was nearly 25 years ago. His advanced stats relative to the minutes he played would have him as the 3rd or 4th scorer on those teams I would say. Westbrook wants to be the scoring threat of OKC.

 

I just looked and the two season Detroit won the title with Thomas at the helm, he attempted 15.3 and 16.3 shots per game. Westbrook is near 19 with a scoring threat Thomas never had the luxury of having. That is a big difference.

 

Do you believe DRose will be able to lead the Bulls to the title sometime in the near future? He's better than Westbrook, but they are very similar players and he has far less talent beside him.

What field is there in the West to take? And playing in OKC is a huge home court advantage to have.

 

They have as much inside presence as the MJ Bulls had. Maybe even more defensively.

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Durant with 45 and Westbrook with 36, four minutes left in OT.

 

Ah big deal Kobe and Smush Parker went for 94 once in a game. :lol:

 

 

 

 

Firs time ever we had a 50 point game, 40 point game, and triple double (And it was with Blocks) by teammates. Just a crazy game.

 

 

Do you believe DRose will be able to lead the Bulls to the title sometime in the near future? He's better than Westbrook, but they are very similar players and he has far less talent beside him.

Nope. I hope so because I love Rose, but I am not seeing it unless something changes. I would say Rose's is a lot more forced out of necessity than Westbrook's scoring.
Ah big deal Kobe and Smush Parker went for 94 once in a game. :lol:

 

 

 

 

Firs time ever we had a 50 point game, 40 point game, and triple double (And it was with Blocks) by teammates. Just a crazy game.

It was a very strange game also when you consider Denver rolled out a MASH unit for the game.
What field is there in the West to take? And playing in OKC is a huge home court advantage to have.

 

They have as much inside presence as the MJ Bulls had. Maybe even more defensively.

 

Let's not even compare that Jordan and Pippen to Durant and Westbrook. Did you ever see MJ get pushed out to the 3 point line when calling for the ball? Some team will get physical with Durant and they will lose because they will shoot too many jumpers IMO. Westbrook is ripe to go off at anytime. Arvydas Sabonis' rotting corspe could guard Perkins or Ibaka in the post. A crazy team will make it in the West IMO, if the Lakers get even a trained animal to run the point I wouldn't put it past them. Head to head do you think Kobe is losing to Durant? I don't.

 

If Memphis gets in and Z-Bo is back and healthy I'd love their chances with the addition of Speights. The Mavs have looked alot better lately. Of course Lob City is going to make noise, CP3 always plays well in the playoffs. Portland has played OKC tough and will continue to get better. I take the field and don't sweat it.

Let's not even compare that Jordan and Pippen to Durant and Westbrook. Did you ever see MJ get pushed out to the 3 point line when calling for the ball? Some team will get physical with Durant and they will lose because they will shoot too many jumpers IMO. Westbrook is ripe to go off at anytime. Arvydas Sabonis' rotting corspe could guard Perkins or Ibaka in the post. A crazy team will make it in the West IMO, if the Lakers get even a trained animal to run the point I wouldn't put it past them. Head to head do you think Kobe is losing to Durant? I don't.

 

If Memphis gets in and Z-Bo is back and healthy I'd love their chances with the addition of Speights. The Mavs have looked alot better lately. Of course Lob City is going to make noise, CP3 always plays well in the playoffs. Portland has played OKC tough and will continue to get better. I take the field and don't sweat it.

 

You are over analyzing. I'm talking about the Bulls winning with Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley, Bill Pennington as centers. If they can win titles with those three centers then I think OKC can at least win the West with Ibaka, Perkins and Mohammed. Memphis couldn't beat OKC last year and OKC is better this year. Has Memphis improved any?

Unless the Lakers get Rondo they won't get past the first round.

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