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I thought this was an interesting and worthwhile story about this famous photo:

 

Heading out to church so I will check the link later but I always thought this picture was one of the best at exemplifying how ugly it was in the south. We picture white guys in funny headgear when in reality it was everyone and the lady in the dress is no different than the guy that did the hanging.

Life of the times, it wasn't right but it was what it is. There is no color in Heaven.

 

I grew up in Alabama in the 50s/60s. When we moved to Kentucky (1964) I came home from first day of school, there was two problems, I talked so Southern they wanted to put me back a year (redshirt) and my Mom called the school because there were kids of another race going there.

Heading out to church so I will check the link later but I always thought this picture was one of the best at exemplifying how ugly it was in the south. We picture white guys in funny headgear when in reality it was everyone and the lady in the dress is no different than the guy that did the hanging.

 

Very much agreed. I believe that's true today as well. The story is a bit of a microcosm of our current society as well.

Very much agreed. I believe that's true today as well. The story is a bit of a microcosm of our current society as well.

 

Very good point.

The journalists and photographers sensationalized that photo around the globe. It was an ugly story that needed to be shared.

I was surprised to read that Hazel, the girl with the nasty face, was only 15. The rest of her life was defined that day.

 

According to the article, there was an old white woman who spat on Elizabeth. Police officers glared at Elizabeth and blocked her. Countless other adults lined the streets and taunted the 9 students as they bravely made their way seeking the education that they deserved. These were all adults. Where was their picture? They got to hide in the background while Hazel took the hit that day.

 

I guess what I am trying to say is that children learn the hatred from their parents and other adults. I am not trying to say that Hazel did nothing wrong that day. But I would not be surprised if Hazel's parents encouraged her that morning to go make things difficult for the 9 students, so they would maybe change their mind about attending that high school.

 

The actions of a 15 year-old are so influenced by peer pressure, and by the need to please parents, teachers, etc. All of the adults in Hazel's life at that time should also feel shame every time they see that picture.

^What you say is true, but my guess is that photographers don't always get the luxury of the ideal shot that captures everything exactly they way they want it. They have to work within the situation, right?

 

I think the picture captures what you speak about. I believe most people are aware that the actions of the kids are heavily influenced by the adults around them. This particular photograph shows the result and effect of racism. It shows they cycle.

^What you say is true, but my guess is that photographers don't always get the luxury of the ideal shot that captures everything exactly they way they want it. They have to work within the situation, right?

 

I think the picture captures what you speak about. I believe most people are aware that the actions of the kids are heavily influenced by the adults around them. This particular photograph shows the result and effect of racism. It shows they cycle.

 

Exactly. Situations such as that don't exactly lend themselves to a re-do. The photog was in that spot, and that's what he got. In a mob scene, it's not exactly practical to scurry over to a different spot — you just document what you can, while you can.

The journalists and photographers sensationalized that photo around the globe. It was an ugly story that needed to be shared.

I was surprised to read that Hazel, the girl with the nasty face, was only 15. The rest of her life was defined that day.

 

According to the article, there was an old white woman who spat on Elizabeth. Police officers glared at Elizabeth and blocked her. Countless other adults lined the streets and taunted the 9 students as they bravely made their way seeking the education that they deserved. These were all adults. Where was their picture? They got to hide in the background while Hazel took the hit that day.

 

I guess what I am trying to say is that children learn the hatred from their parents and other adults. I am not trying to say that Hazel did nothing wrong that day. But I would not be surprised if Hazel's parents encouraged her that morning to go make things difficult for the 9 students, so they would maybe change their mind about attending that high school.

 

The actions of a 15 year-old are so influenced by peer pressure, and by the need to please parents, teachers, etc. All of the adults in Hazel's life at that time should also feel shame every time they see that picture.

 

Sorry, I don't buy it. Once a racist bigot, always a racist bigot. I don't care how old she was. She's a disgrace.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Once a racist bigot, always a racist bigot. I don't care how old she was. She's a disgrace.

With your reply, how does that make you different? Serious question.

With your reply, how does that make you different? Serious question.

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You don't think a person can change after the age of 15?

 

Perhaps she could argue that she was born that way and could do nothing about it?

Exactly. Situations such as that don't exactly lend themselves to a re-do. The photog was in that spot, and that's what he got. In a mob scene, it's not exactly practical to scurry over to a different spot — you just document what you can, while you can.

 

The ones that come to my mind right away are the S. Vietnamese officer executing a VC on the street during Tet and the young girl's reaction standing over Jeffrey Miller at Kent State.

 

Great photo journalism is part courage, part luck, and part determined skill.

With your reply, how does that make you different? Serious question.

 

How is what I said in the least bit racist? Judging someone based on their actions is quite a bit different than doing so based on one's skin color. Surely, you're smart enough to realize that.

 

Anyone who is racist is a disgrace.

How is what I said in the least bit racist? Judging someone based on their actions is quite a bit different than doing so based on one's skin color. Surely, you're smart enough to realize that.

 

Anyone who is racist is a disgrace.

I'm plenty smart enough to see your stance. You can't pick and choose what you can't stand (in your case, racism) yet champion other causes and claim to be non-judgemental. Your stance on her view is not much different than her stance in the pic, IMVHO.