What about out of state players? Can/does Highlands take players that live in Cincinnati? I would think it would be an advantage to go to say, Indiana, and get some of the best players in that area. Guru do you really think that other public schools in the state, save Highlands, just haven't "figured it out"? Of the 24 publics on that list how many of them are not near the top of their state in male enrollment? An even better question, how many are schools that have been playing football for less than 30-40 years? An often discounted advantage that no school in the state can "figure out" is tradition and length of existence. It is no coincidence that the two schools in this thread have been playing football much longer than most schools in the state. Lots of proud alumni that donate and want their kids to go to school there.

So Guru, are you still convinced that Trinity has no advantage?

 

Other than being larger/having more depth no I don't think Trinity has any advantages over Highlands.

What about out of state players? Can/does Highlands take players that live in Cincinnati? I would think it would be an advantage to go to say, Indiana, and get some of the best players in that area. Guru do you really think that other public schools in the state, save Highlands, just haven't "figured it out"? Of the 24 publics on that list how many of them are not near the top of their state in male enrollment? An even better question, how many are schools that have been playing football for less than 30-40 years? An often discounted advantage that no school in the state can "figure out" is tradition and length of existence. It is no coincidence that the two schools in this thread have been playing football much longer than most schools in the state. Lots of proud alumni that donate and want their kids to go to school there.

 

It isn't whether a school takes out of district/out of state students, it is do they have the ability and according to the KHSAA everyone has that ability (thus no advantage). And if we use how long a school has been around we might as well thrown in the towel because you never gain any ground...

Interesting, I did not know that public schools in KY could take students from out of state. I wonder why people from Cincinnati don't send their kids to Highlands? Thanks for the info

 

The other publics would agree that it IS very hard to gain ground on T and X, or Highlands for that matter. I realize that there is nothing that can be done to change this but that wasn't the question, the question was do T and X have an advantage over Highlands (and other public schools). Right? Longevity is certainly an advantage. Or were you just looking for answers that would suggest that other schools hadn't "figured it out"?

I understand if a school is new then that is a big deal but at some point longevity has severely diminishing returns. How long has Male been around?

 

The point of the thread is there are no advantages to start, everyone plays by the same KHSAA rules, it is what schools do to build their program given those parameters that matter. Trinity certainly excels and most people are quick to say Trinity excels because they are a private school and they have advantages. Well they don't advantages unless they have created them under the same set of rules everyone plays by. I used Highlands as a comparison because their program is just as successful as Trinity (lets not get into semantics everyone) and Highlands is a public school which shows everyone it can be done at a public school. In summary, every school makes its own breaks and the private/public stuff is nothing more than an excuse for underachieving public schools.

 

I have said it before and I will say it again, the mirror is a lonely place.

Hypothetically, if Highlands were a private boys only school and could accomodate 1400 boys with the same coaching staff in place, yet got the pick of the litter of Ryle, SKenton, NCC, Beechwood, CCatholic, Dixie, Boone Co, Campbell Co, Conner, Holy Cross, Lloyd, Newport, etc as well as what they already have, then you would essentially have what Trinity has. Even if you only added 4 or 5 of the top players from each of those schools, you'd have another 50 to 75 kids to choose from. Now tell me that wouldn't make a difference or be an advantage.

 

Not to mention possibly pulling in kids from Ohio.

It isn't whether a school takes out of district/out of state students, it is do they have the ability and according to the KHSAA everyone has that ability (thus no advantage). And if we use how long a school has been around we might as well thrown in the towel because you never gain any ground...

 

Would a kid in the same circumstances as Mike Mitchell a few years back have to sit out if he were transferring to a private school such as Trinity rather than a public such as Highlands?

Would a kid in the same circumstances as Mike Mitchell a few years back have to sit out if he were transferring to a private school such as Trinity rather than a public such as Highlands?

 

It would be the same for every school public or private. In other words, there is no difference between transferring to Highlands, Trinity, or any school (public or private) for that matter. And while we are on the topic, Mitchell did transfer for athletic reasons but that is a whole other kettle of fish.

What about out of state players? Can/does Highlands take players that live in Cincinnati? I would think it would be an advantage to go to say, Indiana, and get some of the best players in that area. Guru do you really think that other public schools in the state, save Highlands, just haven't "figured it out"? Of the 24 publics on that list how many of them are not near the top of their state in male enrollment? An even better question, how many are schools that have been playing football for less than 30-40 years? An often discounted advantage that no school in the state can "figure out" is tradition and length of existence. It is no coincidence that the two schools in this thread have been playing football much longer than most schools in the state. Lots of proud alumni that donate and want their kids to go to school there.

 

If we are going by longevity then Trinity is at a disadvantage compared to many schools. We have only been around since 1954.

Interesting, I did not know that public schools in KY could take students from out of state. I wonder why people from Cincinnati don't send their kids to Highlands? Thanks for the info

 

The other publics would agree that it IS very hard to gain ground on T and X, or Highlands for that matter. I realize that there is nothing that can be done to change this but that wasn't the question, the question was do T and X have an advantage over Highlands (and other public schools). Right? Longevity is certainly an advantage. Or were you just looking for answers that would suggest that other schools hadn't "figured it out"?

 

Not to mention possibly pulling in kids from Ohio.

 

I have never heard of a kid in Ohio transferring to Highlands . The Cincinnati area and especially the GCL south has some of the best high school football in the country. Why would they want to cross the river to play at Highlands ? Kentucky football plays second fiddle to Ohio football , but I'm not sure that I agree with that statement , but most people do ?

I'm not here to blast the private schools. But one huge advantage they have is not always who they let in but who they can keep out. If you are an unathletic boy living next to Dunbar in Lexington you have the right to go there, if the same situation occurs at Trinity the student does not have the right to go there. If some of these big high schools are full of non athletic students (which some are no matter how good people are at reading student numbers) and private schools can pick and choose then its an advantage.

 

This is just my opinion but I can't imagine there are only 1400 boys or so who like to attend Trinity, I would bet its a lot higher.

I'm not here to blast the private schools. But one huge advantage they have is not always who they let in but who they can keep out. If you are an unathletic boy living next to Dunbar in Lexington you have the right to go there, if the same situation occurs at Trinity the student does not have the right to go there. If some of these big high schools are full of non athletic students (which some are no matter how good people are at reading student numbers) and private schools can pick then its an advantage.

 

This is just my opinion but I can't imagine there are only 1400 boys or so who like to attend Trinity, I would bet its a lot higher.

 

Zero chance a private school doesn't take the unathletic kid wanting to attend.

I'm not here to blast the private schools. But one huge advantage they have is not always who they let in but who they can keep out. If you are an unathletic boy living next to Dunbar in Lexington you have the right to go there, if the same situation occurs at Trinity the student does not have the right to go there. If some of these big high schools are full of non athletic students (which some are no matter how good people are at reading student numbers) and private schools can pick then its an advantage.

 

This is just my opinion but I can't imagine there are only 1400 boys or so who like to attend Trinity, I would bet its a lot higher.

 

There are only three reasons a student does not end up at Trinity who may or may not want to:

 

1) They are female.

2) Even with financial assistance they cannot afford it.

3) They have special needs that we do not have the facilities to attend to, although we do have a very good special education program there may be some IEPs out there that we aren't prepared to handle.

 

We don't turn people away arbitrarily.

There are only three reasons a student does not end up at Trinity who may or may not want to:

 

1) They are female.

2) Even with financial assistance they cannot afford it.

3) They have special needs that we do not have the facilities to attend to, although we do have a very good special education program there may be some IEPs out there that we aren't prepared to handle.

 

We don't turn people away arbitrarily.

 

I'm not saying you are not telling the truth. But with the growing in population and most big city high schools are growing at a high rate why is Trinity not?

I'm not saying you are not telling the truth. But with the growing in population and most big city high schools are growing at a high rate why is Trinity not?

 

I doubt many private schools are doing much growing.