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2011 - 10th Region Tournament Structure

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And non-Mason County fans will never admit that Mason County JUST wWINS: Montgomery County,Northern Kentucky,Rupp Arena, The Field house, makes no difference and that is---------------END OF STORY,END OF DISCUSSION:walk:

 

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You still just don't get it do you. Where or when Mason wins has NOTHING to do with what this thread is discussing. The thread is about the few things that Mason needs to correct, student seating, etc. Everyone agrees Mason has won everywhere. :deadhorse:

 

Lets move it to Augusta, have everyone park in downtown Maysville and ride the boat down the river to Augusta. There is a couple of nice dining places once off of the boat in Augusta, it would be like parking at Hooters and riding over to the Reds game. I would be there to greet each person getting off the boat with those famous words, take your time, watch your step and please hold on to your ticket to ride back, lol. Ah this thread is nuts, the Fieldhouse is just fine, and I agree with another poster, the schools that complain the most is GRC and Montgomery and they are likely gone in a few years any how. Everyone else just be patient and enjoy the popcorn smell and those out of region officials. Now back to the last half hour of the Prices Right. Good day to all!

Lets move it to Augusta, have everyone park in downtown Maysville and ride the boat down the river to Augusta. There is a couple of nice dining places once off of the boat in Augusta, it would be like parking at Hooters and riding over to the Reds game. I would be there to greet each person getting off the boat with those famous words, take your time, watch your step and please hold on to your ticket to ride back, lol. Ah this thread is nuts, the Fieldhouse is just fine, and I agree with another poster, the schools that complain the most is GRC and Montgomery and they are likely gone in a few years any how. Everyone else just be patient and enjoy the popcorn smell and those out of region officials. Now back to the last half hour of the Prices Right. Good day to all!

 

I think some of these posts are laying out exactly the issues that have grown in the 10th. The mind-set is this is the way it is so deal with it. The reality is treat the tournament with respect or it may not be in the Fieldhouse for 40yrs straight. Instead it will be rotated and you get to host one maybe two years out of four. What happened to trying to be a good host? That's all that is being asked. The funny thing is the answer to the question is alway Mason's record??? Act like you have been there before. A good program like Mason's Cnty doesn't need to cheapen it by placing student's behind the opposing team benches or say things like "this is our gym so we aren't going to move". Don't avoid the issue, fix it. All 10th region schools own the regional tourney and have a right to voice their opiniions and the perinial host has the responsibility to listen and act.

I think some of these posts are laying out exactly the issues that have grown in the 10th. The mind-set is this is the way it is so deal with it. The reality is treat the tournament with respect or it may not be in the Fieldhouse for 40yrs straight. Instead it will be rotated and you get to host one maybe two years out of four. What happened to trying to be a good host? That's all that is being asked. The funny thing is the answer to the question is alway Mason's record??? Act like you have been there before. A good program like Mason's Cnty doesn't need to cheapen it by placing student's behind the opposing team benches or say things like "this is our gym so we aren't going to move". Don't avoid the issue, fix it. All 10th region schools own the regional tourney and have a right to voice their opiniions and the perinial host has the responsibility to listen and act.

 

I said it before and will again, I believe you and Ms. Sunrise should take over the tall task of hosting. You have your ideas in place.

I said it before and will again, I believe you and Ms. Sunrise should take over the tall task of hosting. You have your ideas in place.

 

I wouldn't mind it at all. I've ran much larger events than this one. I can tell you changes that would be made immediately. One, students wouldn't be allowed to sit behind opposing teams benches and two fans would be designated an appropriate area to sit in. The home team is the home team and the visiting team is the visiting team regardless of location or facility.

I feel like I have just wasted 30 minutes of my life reading this thread so I felt it was necessary to post what i thought. I don't think it was right last year to have the Mason student section sit behind the Clark Co bench but if Clark had the option as to what bench to sit at, you cannot put all the blame on the tournament director. You can say teams and fans are not treated fairly for the tournament but the bottom line is the court is still retangular, the goal is still 10'tall and the ball is still round. The players have to play the game regardless of where they get dressed or sit during the game. The locker rooms, the bench placment nor the Mason Co students lost that game for Clark County last year, the players did. Mason Co. could put them up in the French Quarter and feed them caviar but if the players can't get it done on the court it is all for not.

I feel like I have just wasted 30 minutes of my life reading this thread so I felt it was necessary to post what i thought. I don't think it was right last year to have the Mason student section sit behind the Clark Co bench but if Clark had the option as to what bench to sit at, you cannot put all the blame on the tournament director. You can say teams and fans are not treated fairly for the tournament but the bottom line is the court is still retangular, the goal is still 10'tall and the ball is still round. The players have to play the game regardless of where they get dressed or sit during the game. The locker rooms, the bench placment nor the Mason Co students lost that game for Clark County last year, the players did. Mason Co. could put them up in the French Quarter and feed them caviar but if the players can't get it done on the court it is all for not.

 

Run the Tournament as you would want it run if it was at another facility. When the Tourny director can't do what is right in the first place, the rest of that sentance has no merit.

 

Lets move it to Augusta, have everyone park in downtown Maysville and ride the boat down the river to Augusta. There is a couple of nice dining places once off of the boat in Augusta, it would be like parking at Hooters and riding over to the Reds game. I would be there to greet each person getting off the boat with those famous words, take your time, watch your step and please hold on to your ticket to ride back, lol. Ah this thread is nuts, the Fieldhouse is just fine, and I agree with another poster, the schools that complain the most is GRC and Montgomery and they are likely gone in a few years any how. Everyone else just be patient and enjoy the popcorn smell and those out of region officials. Now back to the last half hour of the Prices Right. Good day to all!

 

I am sure all the concerns for 142 posts would magically disappear if this was held at Augusta. If GRC and Montgomery are re-aligned, what about the other schools? That still doesn't mean the existing problem just won't go away.

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Clark County had to option of what bench to take and chose to take the bench in front of the student section. Yeah yeah I know it should have been predetermined and fair to both teams but their coach chose to put his team on that bench. They lost the game due to jacking up ill advised three pointers down the stretch and not taking care of business on the floor, not because they sit in front of a student section. They were the far superior team and let Mason County hang around and get the win at the end. The loss falls on the players and the coaching staff! If blaming everyone and everything for the loss makes you all feel better that is fine. This is a new season and Clark County is the clear cut favorite at this time to win the region. It is up to the players to get it done! It should not matter where they put their uniform on or where their bench is located on the floor.

I, like others, am surprised that Mason Cty fans keep getting on this site and all they seem to say is that they won the games. As far as I can tell, everyone recognizes that Mason Cty won the games. What people are saying is that for 43 of the past 46 years, Mason Cty has enjoyed the ‘home court advantage’. I would like some Mason Cty fans to get on this site and admit that a ‘home court advantage’ does exist. Every sports fan and expert I know recognizes and acknowledges that there is such a thing as a ‘home court advantage’. Heck, even Vegas odds makers acknowledge it. What bench you sit on, where fans sit, what locker room you use are all small things that contribute to the ‘home court advantage’. What non Mason Cty fans want is for Mason officials who run the tournament to eliminate as much of the ‘home court advantage’ as they can – so the tournament is as fair as it can be. I would assume that most Mason Cty fans would want the same. No offense to Mason Cty, but even if they took care of every issue being raised here, there still would be a ‘home court advantage’ for the Mason Cty team. They don’t have to travel; they get to use their home gym, with lighting, background, size of floor, and etc. all to their liking. Obviously, nothing can be done about all of those factors, but what Mason Cty officials can change, and all of them are reasonable, they should change. On a side note, when the tournament was held at BOK, there was no ‘home court advantage’ for any team, because even though Campbell County was hosting, it wasn’t their home court. No team was used to playing on the BOK floor – thus no advantage. That is why this tournament should be rotated – no one should be allowed to have a ‘home court advantage’ 43 out of 46 years!

I, like others, am surprised that Mason Cty fans keep getting on this site and all they seem to say is that they won the games. As far as I can tell, everyone recognizes that Mason Cty won the games. What people are saying is that for 43 of the past 46 years, Mason Cty has enjoyed the ‘home court advantage’. I would like some Mason Cty fans to get on this site and admit that a ‘home court advantage’ does exist. Every sports fan and expert I know recognizes and acknowledges that there is such a thing as a ‘home court advantage’. Heck, even Vegas odds makers acknowledge it. What bench you sit on, where fans sit, what locker room you use are all small things that contribute to the ‘home court advantage’. What non Mason Cty fans want is for Mason officials who run the tournament to eliminate as much of the ‘home court advantage’ as they can – so the tournament is as fair as it can be. I would assume that most Mason Cty fans would want the same. No offense to Mason Cty, but even if they took care of every issue being raised here, there still would be a ‘home court advantage’ for the Mason Cty team. They don’t have to travel; they get to use their home gym, with lighting, background, size of floor, and etc. all to their liking. Obviously, nothing can be done about all of those factors, but what Mason Cty officials can change, and all of them are reasonable, they should change. On a side note, when the tournament was held at BOK, there was no ‘home court advantage’ for any team, because even though Campbell County was hosting, it wasn’t their home court. No team was used to playing on the BOK floor – thus no advantage. That is why this tournament should be rotated – no one should be allowed to have a ‘home court advantage’ 43 out of 46 years!

 

Let me see here:

 

2008 Mont Co-Mason Co won

2009-BOK-Mason Co won

2010-Mason Co-Mason Co won

 

Bottom line the best team will win and Mason Co has done that the last three years.

I, like others, am surprised that Mason Cty fans keep getting on this site and all they seem to say is that they won the games. As far as I can tell, everyone recognizes that Mason Cty won the games. What people are saying is that for 43 of the past 46 years, Mason Cty has enjoyed the ‘home court advantage’. I would like some Mason Cty fans to get on this site and admit that a ‘home court advantage’ does exist. Every sports fan and expert I know recognizes and acknowledges that there is such a thing as a ‘home court advantage’. Heck, even Vegas odds makers acknowledge it. What bench you sit on, where fans sit, what locker room you use are all small things that contribute to the ‘home court advantage’. What non Mason Cty fans want is for Mason officials who run the tournament to eliminate as much of the ‘home court advantage’ as they can – so the tournament is as fair as it can be. I would assume that most Mason Cty fans would want the same. No offense to Mason Cty, but even if they took care of every issue being raised here, there still would be a ‘home court advantage’ for the Mason Cty team. They don’t have to travel; they get to use their home gym, with lighting, background, size of floor, and etc. all to their liking. Obviously, nothing can be done about all of those factors, but what Mason Cty officials can change, and all of them are reasonable, they should change. On a side note, when the tournament was held at BOK, there was no ‘home court advantage’ for any team, because even though Campbell County was hosting, it wasn’t their home court. No team was used to playing on the BOK floor – thus no advantage. That is why this tournament should be rotated – no one should be allowed to have a ‘home court advantage’ 43 out of 46 years!

 

And that sums it all up. :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

END OF STORY,END OF DISCUSSION :D

Let me see here:

 

2008 Mont Co-Mason Co won

2009-BOK-Mason Co won

2010-Mason Co-Mason Co won

 

Bottom line the best team will win and Mason Co has done that the last three years.

 

I never said the best team didn't win.

 

So do you acknowledge such a concept of a home court advantage or not?

 

By the way, I already said no home court advantage in 2009 at BOK. I'm not familiar with 2009 at Mont. Co. But there definately was a home court advantage at 2010 at Mason. Do you disagree?

Let me see here:

 

2008 Mont Co-Mason Co won

2009-BOK-Mason Co won

2010-Mason Co-Mason Co won

 

Bottom line the best team will win and Mason Co has done that the last three years.

 

Doesn't matter who won. EVERYBODY acknowledges GRC has choked the past two years. In 2008, Mason Co. was the huge favorite and nothing else mattered. Still doesn't take away the fact that when played at the Fieldhouse, there is a home court advantage.

Lets move it to Augusta, have everyone park in downtown Maysville and ride the boat down the river to Augusta. There is a couple of nice dining places once off of the boat in Augusta, it would be like parking at Hooters and riding over to the Reds game. I would be there to greet each person getting off the boat with those famous words, take your time, watch your step and please hold on to your ticket to ride back, lol. Ah this thread is nuts, the Fieldhouse is just fine, and I agree with another poster, the schools that complain the most is GRC and Montgomery and they are likely gone in a few years any how. Everyone else just be patient and enjoy the popcorn smell and those out of region officials. Now back to the last half hour of the Prices Right. Good day to all!

 

Actually, we have enough parking here, so if you want to save yourself the cost of passage on a boat then you'll be fine. Partake in our excellent concession stand while you are there and enjoy the Hoosier style feel of the gym during the games.

I have not said one time that it is not an advantage for Mason to play in the fieldhouse but I think some of the arguements in this thread had nothing to do with the actual game and how it was played. I agree that playing on the goals you practice on everyday is more comfortable but most of these kids play basketball all year around with AAU, camps, etc. They are used to playing in different gyms and all kinds of different environments. They could have played that game in Madison Square Gardens last year and if Clark County would have played the way they did at the end of that game they would have lost. Mason had the best teams in 2008 and 2009 and went into two different gyms and was able to win the game with no home court advantage. Clark County had the best team last year and was not able to get the job done. You can make all the excuses in the world but the team did not perform up the the level that they expected or the fans expected. They are once again the favorite to win at this point in the season. I think they would represent the 10th Region well this year and would have to be one of the favorites if they make it to Rupp.

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