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Track the Reds (2nd Half, Week 12)

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Before yesterday the Reds would have had to go 4-1 with SF going 2-3 to get the #2 seed. Those are the facts.

 

With the way the Reds have been playing recently, did you really expect that to happen? They were better off getting people rest and making a push in the playoffs.

 

The Reds had their best or second best pitcher on the mound last night. If they would have played some regulars and lost and SF won couldn't they have rested guys tonight and all weekend? They gave up a game that could have mattered. Couldn't they try to win all 5 and see what happens? If they would have gone 5-0 and SF gone 3-2 wouldn't that have worked? If SF won 3 straight there would have been plenty if time for rest. Why did Cairo need rest? No matter what they were only going out West IF Atlanta choked not SF.

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So how do they end up in SF if SF handles a struggling SD this weekend? Actually unless Atlanta tanks how do the Reds end up on the West coast?

 

Um....If SF handles SD, the Reds play the Phillies regardless how they end the year. In order for the Reds to get the #2 seed before yesterday, the Giants would have had to tank.

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How do they not? The Phillies can't play the Braves 1st round.

 

 

Nevermind. I'm confusing myself.

The Reds had their best or second best pitcher on the mound last night. If they would have played some regulars and lost and SF won couldn't they have rested guys tonight and all weekend? They gave up a game that could have mattered. Couldn't they try to win all 5 and see what happens? If they would have gone 5-0 and SF gone 3-2 wouldn't that have worked? If SF won 3 straight there would have been plenty if time for rest. Why did Cairo need rest? No matter what they were only going out West IF Atlanta choked not SF.

 

Yeah, play all the starters who've had maybe 2 days off in the past month or close to it, then have them drained for the playoffs...Great strategy...:rolleyes:

 

Also, since when is 2-5 with a 5.00 ERA in their last 10 games a team's best or 2nd best pitcher?

How do they not? The Phillies can't play the Braves 1st round.

 

The only way the Reds could have gone west is if the wild card came out of the West. If Cincy caught SF and Atlanta was the WC the Reds hosted Atlanta. If SF stayed in front and Atlanta won the WC the Reds were going to Philly. Going west would have taken an epic collapse from Atlanta considering Hamels is the only big 3 pitcher from Philly getting any innings this weekend.

Um....If SF handles SD, the Reds play the Phillies regardless how they end the year. In order for the Reds to get the #2 seed before yesterday, the Giants would have had to tank.

 

How is 3-2 or 2-3 tanking?

How is 3-2 or 2-3 tanking?

 

Ummm....The Reds would have to go 5-0 or 4-1 in their final 5 for that to be meaningful. That wasn't happening regardless. You're smart enough to realize that.

Yeah, play all the starters who've had maybe 2 days off in the past month or close to it, then have them drained for the playoffs...Great strategy...:rolleyes:

 

Also, since when is 2-5 with a 5.00 ERA in their last 10 games a team's best or 2nd best pitcher?

 

They are off next Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday and Saturday if they fininsh 3rd. There were 5 remaining games to get guys rest. They didn't have to rest every starter and Cairo. Bruce has had how many days off inthe last two months? Hanigan and Ramon Hernandez played all those games at the same time?

 

He was pretty good last night. I'd have taken my chances on getting 3 runs with 4 regular starters.

The Reds had their best or second best pitcher on the mound last night. If they would have played some regulars and lost and SF won couldn't they have rested guys tonight and all weekend? They gave up a game that could have mattered. Couldn't they try to win all 5 and see what happens? If they would have gone 5-0 and SF gone 3-2 wouldn't that have worked? If SF won 3 straight there would have been plenty if time for rest. Why did Cairo need rest? No matter what they were only going out West IF Atlanta choked not SF.

 

There's no way they were going 4-1 or 5-0 over the last 5 games. Their record is under .500 this month. Your comment about Cairo makes no sense at all. First you complain that the regulars don't play, now you're complaining that a backup doesn't play? Makes a lot of sense.

 

The way the Reds starters have been swinging the bat, they were likely going 3-2. Which meant the Giants would have had to go 1-4 to get the #2 seed. There was about a zero percent chance of that happening. Guys all over the field are banged up, why not try to get them healthy before the postseason and see if they can put some runs on the board? If they continue to hit like they have it'll be a short series. Might as well get them as healthy as possible. The pitching will be fine, the hitting needed some time off. They got it, and some guys will get another day or two.

 

Stop complaining.

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The only way the Reds could have gone west is if the wild card came out of the West. If Cincy caught SF and Atlanta was the WC the Reds hosted Atlanta. If SF stayed in front and Atlanta won the WC the Reds were going to Philly. Going west would have taken an epic collapse from Atlanta considering Hamels is the only big 3 pitcher from Philly getting any innings this weekend.

 

 

For the Reds to have caught the Giants it more than likely taken the Giants to have been swept by the Padres, and I think the wild card would have come out of the west in that scenario. Hudson and Lowe will both be going on 3 days rest again this weekend. I don't expect the results to be good for the Braves.

Ummm....The Reds would have to go 5-0 or 4-1 in their final 5 for that to be meaningful. That wasn't happening regardless. You're smart enough to realize that.

 

Sure isn't acting like it...

Ummm....The Reds would have to go 5-0 or 4-1 in their final 5 for that to be meaningful. That wasn't happening regardless. You're smart enough to realize that.

 

Humor me here. If rest is so important for young guys is Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday not enough rest? If the Reds would have won last night is it crazy to think they could have won tonight? Say SF wins last night, today, and tomorrow couldn't guys get a day off Saturday and/or Sunday in addition to half getting last night off and half today? If it didn't matter if they won or not why did they all enter the game? Did they all have to take off the same day? Is that a rule I wasn't aware of?

For the Reds to have caught the Giants it more than likely taken the Giants to have been swept by the Padres, and I think the wild card would have come out of the west in that scenario. Hudson and Lowe will both be going on 3 days rest again this weekend. I don't expect the results to be good for the Braves.

 

Why? Couldn't they have gone 1-1 against Arizona and 1-2 against SD? It's actually still a possibility. If the Reds need rest so much couldn't they have split it up?

There's no way they were going 4-1 or 5-0 over the last 5 games. Their record is under .500 this month. Your comment about Cairo makes no sense at all. First you complain that the regulars don't play, now you're complaining that a backup doesn't play? Makes a lot of sense.

 

The way the Reds starters have been swinging the bat, they were likely going 3-2. Which meant the Giants would have had to go 1-4 to get the #2 seed. There was about a zero percent chance of that happening. Guys all over the field are banged up, why not try to get them healthy before the postseason and see if they can put some runs on the board? If they continue to hit like they have it'll be a short series. Might as well get them as healthy as possible. The pitching will be fine, the hitting needed some time off. They got it, and some guys will get another day or two.

 

Stop complaining.

 

If they can't go 4-1 at home against Houston and Milwaukee who have nothing to play for why do you want to play in Philly so bad?

Humor me here. If rest is so important for young guys is Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday not enough rest? If the Reds would have won last night is it crazy to think they could have won tonight? Say SF wins last night, today, and tomorrow couldn't guys get a day off Saturday and/or Sunday in addition to half getting last night off and half today? If it didn't matter if they won or not why did they all enter the game? Did they all have to take off the same day? Is that a rule I wasn't aware of?

 

You don't want to give guys Saturday/Sunday off with off days coming up. That'd be a great idea to not face live pitching in a game for 4 days in a row....

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