Whether they can drive them to school or not isn't the question of when they decide to call off school. I'd say most of us on here defending practicing when school is out have to drive their kids to practice. I am one of the ones who thinks school districts overreact when it snows, but I understand why. I don't miss work and my kids don't miss school or practice because of road conditions and likely never will.

 

Thank you and neither did I nor my daughter!

This is NOT an issue of schools putting athletics before academics.

 

In the case of inclement weather, none of us base our entire day on what happens at 6:00 am, do we? If the roads are in bad condition at 6:00 am, they might be fine by 1:00 pm, in time for practice or 4:00 pm for game travel. I'd much rather have school systems use common sense, rather than an "all or nothing" approach to the issue.

 

As a teacher of 14 years, you'd be hard pressed to find a former student who would say that I ever put athletics before education. On a daily basis August - June, you are going to come in my classroom and expect to learn. If there are school districts that are requiring finalized grades before school is out, than that's a whole separate issue than snow days and athletic events. My district has not done that in the 14 years that I have been teaching and we always have 3-8 snow days to make up.

 

Additionally, if weather/road conditions permit, I'd rather play those games when they are scheduled, as opposed to put too many makeup games in weeks that already have games. THAT makes it tougher on the student athlete.

 

Common sense should also rule practice issues. If the weather has improved and roads are passable, certainly practice can go on. In my district where the main roads get taken care of quickly, but there are MANY back roads and turnarounds that can be difficult, coaches let the players know that if they cannot make it to practice safely then it is no problem and the player will not be penalized.

Heres a thought, if school is canceled, they add the days to the end of the year and such right? School Districts have till what mid June to complete the school year. Does that mean that because school is canceled they change the dates of the district tournaments, regional tournaments, state tournaments? If NKY was hit with a light snow shower the morning of the State football Championships and the schools competing couldnt have school, would they play the game on another day? My point is is with athletics you have a set season. The tournaments and seasons end on a specific date. So if you miss that time, via practice or games, it is a major disadvantage to that school and its program. Dont get me wrong, common sense should be used. If the roads are crap at 6am for school and its closed, and the roads are still crap at 4pm for practice or games, then they should be canceled. On most days (unless a big snow storm) roads are fine in the after noon and practice and other activities are safe to travel too.

I really like the Fayette County rule of, no school, then no practice, nor games that day.

 

Getting an education is the reason for our children having to attend school and not high school sports, so if a Superintend feels it is too dangerous to attend school that day, then it is then still to dangerous to practice or play a game that day and or night.

 

Anyone who disagrees with the above is only kidding themselves if they say that education is more important than sports but gee the roads were fine by game time, so why not play.

 

In this, The Commonwealth of Kentucky, we need to start putting the education of our children first, second and third and realize that this is the only way that our children and The Commonwealth will advance their lives and thus our Commonwealth.

 

"Sports are for fun, but a great education, lasts a lifetime"!

 

I agree with your general point (academics must trump athletics), but I disagree with this policy (although I used to think I agreed with it). Jefferson County Public Schools' mistake from last year convinced me that this policy isn't correct. Jefferson County Public Schools - which (at least last year) had a "no school, no play" policy - looked absolutely ridiculous when they called off school one day, only to have the weather clear that morning, the temperatures increase, and the roads be totally clear by noon of that day. Countless games were cancelled that really shouldn't have been. Playing those games in no way would have amounted to putting athletics ahead of academics.

 

So while I agree with your premise - don't ever compromise academics just to play a game - I don't think this policy really makes much sense as a blanket rule.

I can't see where the school would not be responsible for the players safety in coming and going to the games if they were the ones providing the transportation or arranging the transportation to these games. Think away games or are you telling me that the public school players drive themselves to the away games as individuals players!

 

BTW what happens to a kids playing time if he can't make it to practice or a game due to the weather? Yea we both know!

 

Again, Fayette County has it right!

 

Nowhere did I say that the school provided transportation.

 

My daughter as you know went to NDA and there was never transportation provided to games. Except for out of town Christmas tournaments.

 

And many basketball teams do not provide transportation to away games because of costs to the athletic dept. public or private.

Are those county or state roads that go untouched or are they private roads? If they are county or state roads why are they left untreated for sure a long period of time?

 

I live in a subdivision and my street is cleaned clear to the blacktop after each snow storm with salt and Boone County plows. Of course I pay for it via my taxes but they do a great job of keeping my street with it's 12 homes on it, clean of ice and snow!

 

Oh there are rural roads in Boone County but your correct, Boone County cleans then very well.

 

Yes my daughter attended NDA and yes I had to take her (or made sure she was in a car pool) to NDA and home each and every day and I think they missed maybe two days in her four years there. I believe the public schools in NKy missed at least five/six days a year on average.

 

So here is a honest question (as I truly don't know) to the good folks in EKy that tell me about how much school their kids miss due to poor road conditions due to snow and ice! Do the parents miss 75% of their work days in January and February or do they somehow make it to work? If they make it to work, why then can't they drive their kids to school, like I did?

 

In Eastern Kentucky many of the county routes are gravel roads. There's no good way to treat a gravel road. Salting them will make "the bottom fall out", as one road worker stated to me. He said the mud and slush would make them impassable and it's better to allow them to melt and clear the natural way. Gravel roads are also difficult to scrape due to the loss of gravel and damage to the road.

In Eastern Kentucky many of the county routes are gravel roads. There's no good way to treat a gravel road. Salting them will make "the bottom fall out", as one road worker stated to me. He said the mud and slush would make them impassable and it's better to allow them to melt and clear the natural way. Gravel roads are also difficult to scrape due to the loss of gravel and damage to the road.

It's 2010 not 1910. Pave them !!

It's 2010 not 1910. Pave them !!

I'm just the messenger.:lol:

 

But there's gravel roads all over Eastern Kentucky. Not as many as there once were, but still quite a few. I'm sure all mountain county offcials would love to pave every road in their counties. I suppose funding is the big issue. Plus, some gravel roads may be 5 or more miles long with a dead end, and only 1 or 2 familes living on them.

Well then so be it! If the roads are so bad that school and thus the children education must take a back seat to safety, then so should basketball practice and games! I think it is a much greater shame for students to miss out on their education than to miss out on a basketball game or practice!

 

Schools make up the days no matter what, so kids don't miss out on the education side.

 

With that said, roads are usually clear by the afternoon or early evening so I don't see a problem with practice or games on snow days. I know we never missed a game because of a snow day when I played at Holmes from 78-81.

Edited January 10, 201016 yr by Tiger1

Schools make up the days no matter what, so kids don't miss out on the education side.

 

Exactly! :thumb:

Are those county or state roads that go untouched or are they private roads? If they are county or state roads why are they left untreated for sure a long period of time?

 

I live in a subdivision and my street is cleaned clear to the blacktop after each snow storm with salt and Boone County plows. Of course I pay for it via my taxes but they do a great job of keeping my street with it's 12 homes on it, clean of ice and snow!

 

Oh there are rural roads in Boone County but your correct, Boone County cleans then very well.

 

Yes my daughter attended NDA and yes I had to take her (or made sure she was in a car pool) to NDA and home each and every day and I think they missed maybe two days in her four years there. I believe the public schools in NKy missed at least five/six days a year on average.

 

So here is a honest question (as I truly don't know) to the good folks in EKy that tell me about how much school their kids miss due to poor road conditions due to snow and ice! Do the parents miss 75% of their work days in January and February or do they somehow make it to work? If they make it to work, why then can't they drive their kids to school, like I did?[/QUOTE]

 

Private roads??? You have no idea about Eastern KY! Just because it's a gravel road, it doesn't mean it's a private road. Public school busses do not drive on private roads, and no-one in EKY has a private road, it's called a drive way.

 

Your street in your subdivision is "cleaned clear to the blacktop after each snow storm with salt and Boone County plows". In a heavily populated area like Boone County, you probably have more people in your subdivision than an entire county may have in EKY. Another thing you don't have idea about.

 

You ask why can't their parents drive them to school like you? That was your choice to send your kid to a private school and transport them. Apparently you could afford to do that, a large portion of the people in EKY sending their kids to public schools rely on the bus because they can't afford to drive their kid to school. The majority of the time the school is 10-20 (and more) miles away from their home. Also something you may not realize not every family has two cars like you may have. So this is another topic that you do not have any idea what you are talking about.:madman:

Just was wondering with school and game cancellations, does the same apply to teams practicing after school,etc. when a game or school has been cancelled? Thanks.

 

Harrison played a game on Saturday night and doesn't have school on Monday????

Are those county or state roads that go untouched or are they private roads? If they are county or state roads why are they left untreated for sure a long period of time?

 

I live in a subdivision and my street is cleaned clear to the blacktop after each snow storm with salt and Boone County plows. Of course I pay for it via my taxes but they do a great job of keeping my street with it's 12 homes on it, clean of ice and snow!

 

Oh there are rural roads in Boone County but your correct, Boone County cleans then very well.

 

Yes my daughter attended NDA and yes I had to take her (or made sure she was in a car pool) to NDA and home each and every day and I think they missed maybe two days in her four years there. I believe the public schools in NKy missed at least five/six days a year on average.

 

So here is a honest question (as I truly don't know) to the good folks in EKy that tell me about how much school their kids miss due to poor road conditions due to snow and ice! Do the parents miss 75% of their work days in January and February or do they somehow make it to work? If they make it to work, why then can't they drive their kids to school, like I did?[/QUOTE]

 

Private roads??? You have no idea about Eastern KY! Just because it's a gravel road, it doesn't mean it's a private road. Public school busses do not drive on private roads, and no-one in EKY has a private road, it's called a drive way.

 

Your street in your subdivision is "cleaned clear to the blacktop after each snow storm with salt and Boone County plows". In a heavily populated area like Boone County, you probably have more people in your subdivision than an entire county may have in EKY. Another thing you don't have idea about.

 

You ask why can't their parents drive them to school like you? That was your choice to send your kid to a private school and transport them. Apparently you could afford to do that, a large portion of the people in EKY sending their kids to public schools rely on the bus because they can't afford to drive their kid to school. The majority of the time the school is 10-20 (and more) miles away from their home. Also something you may not realize not every family has two cars like you may have. So this is another topic that you do not have any idea what you are talking about.:madman:

 

Funny maybe I don't know much about EKy but you know nothing about me.

 

I work for a not-for-profit company that works with Handicapped Adults and trust me, we don't make a lot of money.

 

My wife and I spent each Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday evenings and Saturday's afternoons cleaning the nearly 50 toilets at NDA to reduce our daughters tutition to half what it costs to attend.

 

Why not on Tuesday you might ask? Well on Tuesday I kept score for the NDA Academic Team which I am very proud to say my daughter was a part of for her four years at NDA. When it came to the Governors Cup matches I was a judge and or the scorekeeper for both District and Regional matches.

 

Oh and BTW we lived around 15 miles from NDA but because of car pooling we got our child to school each and every day no matter the weather and we have only one car!

 

Funny but far too many people like you think everyone who sends their child to a Catholic School are rich but you are correct, it was my choice that I made to make sure my child got a Catholic Education!

Edited January 10, 201016 yr by Theoldguy

Can a school district that provides transportation have school but cancel bus service? I mean legally.

 

I know of one school district that does not have bus service, I should say I do not think they do, this disrict hardly ever has a snow day.

 

Funny maybe I don't know much about EKy but you know nothing about me.

 

I work for a not-for-profit company that works with Handicapped Adults and trust me, we don't make a lot of money.

 

My wife and I spent each Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday evenings and Saturday's afternoons cleaning the nearly 50 toilets at NDA to reduce our daughters tutition to half what it costs to attend.

 

Why not on Tuesday you might ask? Well on Tuesday I kept score for the NDA Academic Team which I am very proud to say my daughter was a part of for her four years at NDA. When it came to the Governors Cup matches I was a judge and or the scorekeeper for both District and Regional matches.

 

Oh and BTW we lived around 15 miles from NDA but because of car pooling we got our child to school each and every day no matter the weather.

 

Funny but far too many people like you think everyone who sends their child to a Catholic School are rich but you are correct, it was my choice that I made to make sure my child got a Catholic Education!

 

Man I wish.